Raising money for 50 graft HST test procedure

[didi]

so what do you suggest?

How about we have somebody else in the room while video is taken(haarweb moderator), problem solved?
Or somebody else from dutch forum is ok,
anybody is better than have only hasci staff and patient

[Arashi]

so what do you suggest?

How about we have somebody else in the room while video is taken(haarweb moderator), problem solved?
Or somebody else

I hate repeating myself but at this point it seems I'm just explaining myself badly since nobody seems to get my point On the other hand I really don't know how to explain it otherwise. Please re-read my previous posts. If you still don't get my point, then maybe explain to me this: if our patient is for real (and not in on it), then why do we need someone to supervise ? He can just monitor himself that nothing funny is going on.

If (theoretically) the patient would be in on it (like in Dr Nigam's case), then how does the supervisor know what happens after he's gone home ? Dr Nigam could simply eject the grafts that same day, after the supervisor has gone home, and transplant other grafts.

Hence, I'm saying: video and supervision add NOTHING in terms of proof, regardless of the scenario. All we need is a patient we can trust and let him shoot photo's as well.

[534623]

Or somebody else from dutch forum is ok

Not OK - they will buy "somebody" as well ...

Just to let you losers know:
They have nothing better to do than buying everyone and faking everything.

[Arashi]

Not OK - they will buy "somebody" as well ...

Just to let you losers know:
They have nothing better to do than buying everyone and faking everything.

Sometimes I also get really tired of your sarcasm and tone. NOBODY here is suggesting HASCI is going to fake anything at all. Dr Kristel is one of the most sincere people I've ever met. I'm just explaining here that ALL we can do in terms of proof, is have an independent patient and let him shoot pictures as well. Everything else adds nothing extra, just a false sense of proof.

[Kiwi]

Don't worry about (423374 aka mr negative... Why even bother replying to him! Ignore it and it might go away... Or at least treat people nicer... I'd love to punch him in the face

[gc83uk]

Arashi, I completely understand your point, but I need to clarify...

I'm talking about a recording of the Nigam procedure, not HASCI.

Secondly I suggested a video for dual purposes, proof and watching the procedure which IMO would make interesting viewing. So it's not pointless in that aspect.

As for taking the grafts out and putting in new grafts, yea I suppose he could do that, however he would have a hell of a job of making that recipient site look identical to the recipient site before these grafts were removed.

To explain further I would expect a photo to be posted of the recipient close up before the end of the video recording. There is no way he could replicate the 1st photo with new grafts because of the characteristics of each hair is always slightly different, the positioning thickness etc.

Anyway he's done the procedure now and we don't have the recording/live streaming. So pretty pointless discussing it now.

As for Hasci, I don't believe there is any scamming go on, so no need for a video. Simple.

[Arashi]

Arashi, I completely understand your point, but I need to clarify...

I'm talking about a recording of the Nigam procedure, not HASCI.

Secondly I suggested a video for dual purposes, proof and watching the procedure which IMO would make interesting viewing. So it's not pointless in that aspect.

As for taking the grafts out and putting in new grafts, yea I suppose he could do that, however he would have a hell of a job of making that recipient site look identical to the recipient site before these grafts were removed.

To explain further I would expect a photo to be posted of the recipient close up before the end of the video recording. There is no way he could replicate the 1st photo with new grafts because of the characteristics of each hair is always slightly different, the positioning thickness etc.

Anyway he's done the procedure now and we don't have the recording/live streaming. So pretty pointless discussing it now.

As for Hasci, I don't believe there is any scamming go on, so no need for a video. Simple.

Agreed. And yes, I also agree that a video would be interesting and in that perspective not useless, but I don't feel like pushing HASCI to do that. I'm already very excited HASCI is going to do this test for us as it is.

[gc83uk]

Agreed. And yes, I also agree that a video would be interesting and in that perspective not useless, but I don't feel like pushing HASCI to do that. I'm already very excited HASCI is going to do this test for us as it is.

Yes I think asking Hasci to do that is too extreme.

Do we know when the 50 graft test is taking place?

[Arashi]

Yes I think asking Hasci to do that is too extreme.

Do we know when the 50 graft test is taking place?

Yup, in one week. April 8.

[gc83uk]

Yup, in one week. April 8.

Great news, well done on pushing this!

[FearTheLoss]

Great news, well done on pushing this!

I agree! this is awesome! Finally going to have the Gho forum debate settled!!!

[JJJJrS]

The key thing will be the quality of the documentation. As long as the pictures are good and taken before the procedure and after 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, 6 months, 1 year etc., we should be ok. A professional photographer should be able to easily replicate gc's photo so this shouldn't be an issue. Also, I hope they go through to the end with this and neither side decides to back out.

I think we should give HASCI the benefit of doubt for now and see what they can come up with. It would be an added bonus if the patient could take good pictures like gc and IM did, as added insurance. But just getting the 50 graft test was great and hopefully this will be end up being the case to settle the debate.

[534623]

I agree! this is awesome! Finally going to have the Gho forum debate settled!!!

Debate? What debate?
Can you please explain in detail what this debate is all about and what you find "awesome" in this debate?

[didi]

ok no video is needed but this dutch dude needs to verify number/type of grafts and be able to take good quality pics,

arashi
do we know for sure tht hasci will implant 50 grafts into 2 cm2?
test guy have prexisting hair so its important not to distribute grafts loosely

is he still in moderation q?

[534623]

ok no video is needed but this dutch dude needs to verify number/type of grafts and be able to take good quality pics,

Right - and here are his quality pics ...

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?p=113204#post113204