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Video record whole session+we have patient from dutch forum who will be there, how is that a bad thing?
If i live in Holland Id go to hasci studio on 8th of April and supervise procedure..
opportunity like this donst come around very often
Do we know details of Gho test
where is he going to implant grafts, how many 1s,2s,3s
hope dutch dude starts posting on TBTComment
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How do you know Didi didnt buy his HST procedure already?
but still not sure whats growing and how its growing...
this will be epic...
I think TEST should be broadcast live on internetComment
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You still don't get it. I don't know how to explain it better than I just did. You're defending your house, you've put a metal frontdoor in, you've installed camera's at your frontdoor, put electricity on your frontdoor and now you want to install a minefield around your frontdoor. While your backdoor is still wide open. What good is that ?
Really, supervising everything, recording the whole thing on video, tell me, what will it proof ? It's of exactly 0 use. I for one am not going to ask HASCI to do all this when there's 0 use. It would just be extremely embarrasing.Comment
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I will explain one more time (last time) so even someone like Didi will hopefully understand.
Let's say we record the whole thing and have somebody supervise. Everything goes normal, no "funny things" happening and even the person supervising says everything was totall legit. Then, later that day when the person supervising went home and camera is turned off, they eject the transplanted grafts and take grafts elsewhere.
Conclusion: if the patient is in on it, then recording, supervising is of exactly 0 use. If the patient is NOT in on it, then why record and supervise in the first place, when he just verifies himself no 'funny stuff' is going on ?Comment
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Are you guys talking ...
...about THIS guy?Comment
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Yep, AnthonieH is indeed that moderator. As you can see he's a "Gho Skeptic" (to put it kindly). Therefore he would be a great supervisor (since he's biased the other way). However like I explained, if you think it through, supervising and video recording is useless, since we won't be able to tell what happens after that, if the patient is on it. And if he's not in on it, why add an extra supervisor/camera anyway ?Are you guys talking ...
...about THIS guy?Comment
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Who says "we won't be able"??
IF the whole story is true (I didn't follow this thread), and Kristel van Herwijnen will perform the test-procedure - where is the problem?
They always make after checks anyhow (after 1 week, 1 month, 6 month, 9 month etc) and, of course, they always make photos for documentatons anyhow. And especially IN THIS CASE, I guess even Kristel herself is interested about the outcome, because I guess she herself didn't closely follow each and every single graft she extracted in the past, as well each and every extraction site as well as recipient site thereafter - because that's exactly what you guys want to SEE - right?Comment
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I'm playing the devil's advocate here. If Kristel's intention was to fake 100% regrowth AND if the patient is on it (like in Dr Nigam's case), then (s)he would have every opportunity to do so, AFTER the camera shuts down (by ejecting the transplanted grafts and transplant others). For that exact reason I'm saying that the test Dr Nigam is running is worthless.
And for that reason, it's useless to record a video and/or supervise.Comment
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Sometimes you guys are illogically and ridiculously like hell ...
IF the test-candidate, which YOU suggested, really got that f u c k e d up by a Turkish hair transplant clinic; namely, the reason why he is looking for help at all, why should such a guy try to fake? To get thereafter a FULL procedure FOR FREE??
And all this is THE reason, why I give a SHIT about such "test procedures" because IDIOTS will always find this or that "fishy" or "faked".
btw - you CAN'T fake something like this ...
...provided, that photos were taken on a (almost) daily basis up to 1-2 weeks after extractions were done. Such photo-documentions, as you can see them above - you can't find something like this anywhere in the medical literature - until today!
You can't even find exacly the same about simply PLUCKED hairs - or could you guys ever see Dr. Cooley or Dr. Hitzig posting some photos of regenerated (donor site) PLUCKED hairs?? Zero, zilch, nada...Comment
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Arashi
you are taking it too far
you assuming everyone will be fake , from hasci drs to patients..
I beleive dutsh guy is legit, just add video+make good photos
3rd party is needed to make sure we have right number of grafts and verify type of these grafts, plus supervise procedure
Dutch moderator is ok as he is biased the other way
its always better to have more people involved/supervise procedure
video is always better than no video
is this guy ok/capable of taking good quality photos on a daily basis?Comment
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does this TEST guy have 1x2xm of slick bald area in crown where grafts will be implanted?
He is still not posting on this forum, Winston stop pulling yourself and let this guy in;
we need to know all the details, im sure hasci and him must have worked out specifics of testComment
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I'm starting to think I'm not explaining myself correctly here, since you nor Didi nor GC83UK seem to understand my point. I don't have ANY doubts that our guy is for real. I contacted him on haarweb after this poor guy documented his butcher session at another clinic.
All I'm saying that making a video proofs nothing. There are 2 possible scenario's in GENERAL when conducting this test IF the clinic wants to conduct fraud:
1) The patient is in on it
2) The patient is not in on it.
In the first case, making a video is useless, since they can just eject the grafts and insert others AFTER the camera is shut down. In the second case, making a video is useless as well, since the patient will monitor everything himself and will make sure grafts are not being transplanted twice.
So, why make a video, what does it add in terms of proof ?Comment
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