All Hope is Not Lost, After All

[matlondon]

thought that they'' be releasing some more results soon, so where are the results.

[Hurts]

I think they have a conference or something next month so probably then.

£5000-£6000 for a HSC treatment (full head of hair) would be ideal.

[Havok]

these results are incredible. Please keep in mind, this was a low dose study done to expose side effects. This wasn't even a trial to determine effectiveness. Propecia doesn't have stats like this, even after more than 10 years on the market as a solution for people.

1 injection, and a small amount. Think of how much room there is for improvement.

im sure this has been mentioned somewhere but higher dose doesn't necessarily mean greater result. and if thats the case then we'll be better off w/ propecia. i pray that i'm wrong.

[BoSox]

Let's see those "results"... ffs.

[Follicle Death Row]

Wonder how Histogen and Aderans get funding. All hype and numbers so far but nothing tangible and real such as photographs showing undeniable cosmetic improvement, well at least for the potential consumer. Not sure what the investors get to see. I'm losing the faith.

Better release something in the next few months before the hype train derails. Becoming increasingly skeptical.

[Thinning@30]

I understand Histogen is making a presentation at the World Conference of Dermatology in Seoul this week. I am very curious about the presentation they give.

[Bald26]

On another positive note, I think we could well have up to five companies with something tangible by the end of the year (Aderans, Trichoscience, Follica, TRX-2 and, of course, Histogen). In order of who will give a bald man a full head of hair from first to last, I would say:

1) Aderans
2) Histogen
3) Follica
4) TRX-2
5) Trichoscience

I believe all these companies will achieve their goals soon (each and every one will have something tangible within a year) and the competition is good. There can be no hanging about for any of these companies and investors will be demanding results before they part with their capital.

It also means lengthy clinical trials will have to be conducted fast to capture the big payout. Whoever gets there first gets the entire long term bald market. The future market will be newly bald and top ups, not nearly as lucrative!

did someone already mentioned TRX-2 is scam?

[RichardDawkins]

Of course we did, no need to digg up an old thread and say something to make you more credible :-)

Btw we should include "Stop Ejaculation" as a potential cure cause right now we have some experts on the case :-)

[Bald26]

Of course we did, no need to digg up an old thread and say something to make you more credible :-)

Btw we should include "Stop Ejaculation" as a potential cure cause right now we have some experts on the case :-)

you're just pathetic LOL

[DepressedByHairLoss]

I really think that Histogen has the best shot here. It has been known for years that WNT's lead to increased hair growth and finally a company is doing something along those lines. God bless them for it! I can't wait til the day when ineffective shit like Rogaine, Propecia, and hair transplants become obsolete!

[hunter84]

I really think that Histogen has the best shot here. It has been known for years that WNT's lead to increased hair growth and finally a company is doing something along those lines. God bless them for it! I can't wait til the day when ineffective shit like Rogaine, Propecia, and hair transplants become obsolete!

Amen brother!

[RichardDawkins]

Rogaine and propecia will be obsolete but not hair transplants with regenerative abilities. Which can be used for more density.

btw right now its een not clear what happens to propecia because people are geting away from it more and more

[Flowers]

I really think that Histogen has the best shot here. It has been known for years that WNT's lead to increased hair growth and finally a company is doing something along those lines. God bless them for it! I can't wait til the day when ineffective shit like Rogaine, Propecia, and hair transplants become obsolete!

And how much longer til it comes out? (Assuming everything goes 100% well..?) I'm telling you the surgical Acell route is the one that will really blossom in the next few years. No injection or pill will give someone a full head of hair anytime soon

[RichardDawkins]

Flowers is correct. If ou really want a full head of hair WITH a serious pattern and not here a NW0 Patch and there a NW4 Patch and over ther diffuse thinning, you should start to embrace stuff like Ghos HST and Coles Acell findings, they will be the future and i have to say "a pretty damn close future"

But Ari and histogen etc they ill only work as fillers sure they will grow hair but i would consider them options to increase your density to a point where surgicl tretaments would cause shockloss.

For a perfect coverage you need around 14.000 Grafts for a NW7 so that he can have an average density of 70 Grafts all around his head.

Right at this point in time, FUE docs and clinics should already be in motion to offer patients the possiblity to test HSt OR FUE with smaller extraction tools and not so depth extractions with Acell.

Yes i am sceptic about Ghos abilities to create a hair line but i am confidentthat other docs can absolutely easily adapt this technique without problems. I mean come on Cole was an extreme sceptic he ws louder then all those anti Acell guys here, but now he is enthusiastic, and i doubt that he fakes something because he just doesnt have to he has many customers and very good results.

Why couldnt they have started to this back in 2008 we would have saved 3 years and maybe we all wouldnt be here together at this day because there would be no reason for that anymore.

I also think, that with Acell in the recipient area, you can reduce the risk of shockloss, even if you crazyly dense pack one square centimeter.

If we can get around an average of 54% right now with no effort at all, i think we can get almost 100% as well with some effort. And when this happens, i am the first in line to book a flight cause for some reasons i really wanna try the Wesley Sneijder look at least once in my life

[Flowers]

Flowers is correct. If ou really want a full head of hair WITH a serious pattern and not here a NW0 Patch and there a NW4 Patch and over ther diffuse thinning, you should start to embrace stuff like Ghos HST and Coles Acell findings, they will be the future and i have to say "a pretty damn close future"

But Ari and histogen etc they ill only work as fillers sure they will grow hair but i would consider them options to increase your density to a point where surgicl tretaments would cause shockloss.

For a perfect coverage you need around 14.000 Grafts for a NW7 so that he can have an average density of 70 Grafts all around his head.

Right at this point in time, FUE docs and clinics should already be in motion to offer patients the possiblity to test HSt OR FUE with smaller extraction tools and not so depth extractions with Acell.

Yes i am sceptic about Ghos abilities to create a hair line but i am confidentthat other docs can absolutely easily adapt this technique without problems. I mean come on Cole was an extreme sceptic he ws louder then all those anti Acell guys here, but now he is enthusiastic, and i doubt that he fakes something because he just doesnt have to he has many customers and very good results.

Why couldnt they have started to this back in 2008 we would have saved 3 years and maybe we all wouldnt be here together at this day because there would be no reason for that anymore.

I also think, that with Acell in the recipient area, you can reduce the risk of shockloss, even if you crazyly dense pack one square centimeter.

If we can get around an average of 54% right now with no effort at all, i think we can get almost 100% as well with some effort. And when this happens, i am the first in line to book a flight cause for some reasons i really wanna try the Wesley Sneijder look at least once in my life

What does 70 grafts per cm2 look like? I'm guessing pretty good?