KÉRATENE Alphactive ® Retard

[Cob984]

I honestly think KaR is making my hairline worse. I have noticed an increase in testosterone since beginning taking it and I have that "itch" in my temples...another friend of mine feels the same way...


anyone else experience this?

How long has it been? I am experiencing the same things,
To top it off im experiencing bad body sides now, including real loss of muscle definition and a lot of abdominal weight gain
+ my hair doesnt seem to be improving, i might have to drop this soon

[FearTheLoss]

Been on it for a month and a half and just started noticing it recently, I'm also more tired.

My friend has been on RU for a year with success of regrowth and maintenance and then started KaR and started losing hair in the temples...coincidence? maybe, but I don't think so

[Cob984]

im pretty much tired all day as well, i feel like i want a nap all the time,
Its weird because these are all the dht reduction sides without the hair benefitting ? WTF

I have also just ordered some RU, when it does arrive i will go off KAR and try RU, if i can tolerate RU i will drop KAR

[FearTheLoss]

if you are worried about tolerating it, use the KB vehicle. This vehicle was designed to be sides free...

[clandestine]

if you are worried about tolerating it, use the KB vehicle. This vehicle was designed to be sides free...

While it is designed to be sides free, it would be a major misconception to think it so in all cases. I've experienced sides, even while using KB vehicle.

[Conpecia]

While it is designed to be sides free, it would be a major misconception to think it so in all cases. I've experienced sides, even while using KB vehicle.

Is it possible that you are like me in that the gyno is flaring up even without using any treatments? I swear i get these flareups but I'm only on minox. So weird. Kind of concerned.

[Cob984]

Think im quitting the pills, they just are not suiting me,
My hair is not improving, my temples are worsening, im popping all sorts of pills like DIM and resveratrol to combat the weight gain to no avail , might even be counterproductive to my hair,
I am taking a break, going back to using the topicals every other day,
I am going back to saw palmetto internally and will also be adding neogenic and regenpure in a week,
Also waiting for my 2% RU

[Conpecia]

Cobb let us know if RU gives you gyno. I just took a Keratene pill and am going to try to take it for month with minox and see how the sides are. But RU seems like a much more effective treatment, so long as it doesn't give me bitch tits.

[FearTheLoss]

I quit taking them and the itching in my temples has decreased after the past few days..

[Tacola]

Good for a while

I have been on it for a while (two tablets a day) and I did not see any side effects for a long while, but now, about two weeks ago I started to feel a strange "tingling" in my fingers aswell as a strange feeling in my arm. I dont know if this is related to Kerantene since I also at the same time got a really bad food poisoning when I was climbing in the altitude above 6000 meters. I decided to stop for a while to see if it reversed.

Though, my hair seems thicker, but I cant say for sure if it is related to Kerantene or that I just have a better feeling in me in general. I have been through a very stressfull time. Also I have been taking some Bio MSM with silica, but just for about half a week or so.

Either way, I thought I just would report back to you guys. I did not suffer from fatigue or anything like that. But I did not get any sides from Finasteride either.

[UK_]

Guys we need before/after blood tests for DHT levels - does anyone have any actual scientific data to show that this lowered their serum DHT levels?

[UK_]

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[thechamp]

Cob

Cob I'm the same with weight gain on fin two weeks on it even once a week I get lots of fat on my tummy uncomfortable I wish fin didn't give me such good results, I'm thinking of talking fin every fourteen days talking it for 3 days then talking it in fourteen days again will keep the hair I have, weight gain on this drug nothing stops it.

[Conpecia]

Pretty sure this is causing my nips to be sore. Really need to get my estrogen levels checked.

[thechamp]

Cob got some more info

How to reduce Propecia/Finasteride side effects
I created a reply in another topic that I felt might be helpful to others using propecia.
viewtopic.php?f=61&t=68428&p=640985#p640985

Many of the side effects are caused by lowered testosterone levels, increased estrogen levels, or both. I address how you can solve these 2 issues in my reply to this topic.

Copy of my reply:

Originally Posted by ripple-effect
You would have to use an aromatase(increases estrogen) inhibitor along with a SHBG(lowers free T) inhibitor.

Free Testosterone wants to become one of these 3 things when it is floating around in your body:
1.) DHT
2.) estradiol
3.) bind to SHBG(Sex Hormone Binding Globulin)

Since Propecia inhibits the production of DHT, the Free T will mainly only convert to estradiol(type of estrogen) or bind to SHBG. To prevent conversion of Free T into estradiol you would need to use an aromatase inhibitor. An effective natural aromatase inhibitor I would recommend is Grape Seed Extract. This should also help prevent some of the Propecia side effects such as gyno which is caused by increased estrogen levels. A potent brand of GSE I would recommend and use myself is Nature's Plus:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00014 ... B00014G47S

or Jarrow's formula is another potent brand I would highly recommend:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013O ... B0013OXA2M

You also need to prevent Free T from binding to the SHBG. To accomplish this I would recommend increasing your protein intake and using Fish oil supplements. This should help prevent sexual dysfunction by increasing testosterone levels.

This should result in a greater increase of Free T in your system which has many great health benefits.
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