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  • oppenheimer82
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 118

    i've also used this for a couple of weeks and it gave me the worst case of brain fog i've ever experienced. very disturbing to say the least. but i have to admit, their customer service is simply top notch! they have a polish guy working in their callcenter in england and he is very polite and helpfull. so i salute them for this.

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    • oppenheimer82
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 118

      Originally posted by thechamp
      Is there anything we can do to control the estrogen levels and weight gain on propecia any supplements besides dim that we can take?
      perhaps use some diindolylmethane to control and reverse estrogen dominance?

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      • oppenheimer82
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 118

        Originally posted by clandestine
        Try the Letro maybe; the earlier the better. Taper on to it, though. And be sure to taper off too. Be consistent in taking it too, same time every day.

        Meds like Letro, Nolva, etc. are your only options, barring surgery. There was another great one Ive heard of.. Raloxifene or something. I would urge you to look into it.
        much better option, but i didn't know it was allowed in here to talk about those substances.

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        • Californication
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 134

          Honestly, this is imo what is wrong with the forums and even as a new user, it goes on me as well.

          Only one person in this thread has gotten an actual before/after blood test done. It is impossible to know if this stuff works without that. I will be getting an "after" one soon, but as said I earlier, my "before" test was messed up by my doctor as he didnt test the actual DHT level, just whether it was within normal range (which it was).

          Should my "after" value be fairly low though (no more than 550 pg/mol as I believe this was the highest range on the study), I will look into stopping and getting a "before" test.

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          • JulioGP
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 293

            I hear people saying they are not getting results with Kératene. let's remember that finasteride only begins to show some results in six months. I also find difficult start using the product without making a control DHT through examinations. This way you can not know if these effects is reporting that staff are psychological or not. It's like giving a shot in the dark.

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            • thechamp
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1763

              Supplement

              There has to be a supplement at a body building store that deals with estrogen??

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              • Jcm800
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 2614

                Originally posted by thechamp
                There has to be a supplement at a body building store that deals with estrogen??
                Best bet is to go to a store and ask?

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                • Cob984
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 526

                  Hey oppenheimer, do you still get the brain fog, i took 2 capsules for the first time today and can barely move, mind is so cloudy,
                  previously iv been on 1/day to 1/ eod and my hair is struggling, not doing well

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                  • oppenheimer82
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 118

                    no i stopped taking it after three weeks. even @ one capsule/day i was walking around like a zombie.

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                    • thechamp
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1763

                      60xo

                      http://www.bodybuildingoutlet.com/ergopharm6oxo.html use this withfib for estrogen problems

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                      • Cob984
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 526

                        Originally posted by oppenheimer82
                        no i stopped taking it after three weeks. even @ one capsule/day i was walking around like a zombie.
                        What next for you? what are you going to use for hair?

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                        • oppenheimer82
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 118

                          Originally posted by Cob984
                          What next for you? what are you going to use for hair?
                          s-acetyl-glutathione, bnp-32, spermidine (orally as well as topically) and ramatroban.

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                          • AAsuited
                            Junior Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 19

                            After reading lots of materials about the Kératene Alphactive, talking directly to the company..great customer service by the way...) and considering that I'm definitely not a fan of the "regular" 5ard inhibitors (finasteride, dutasteride, etc), I decided to give the product a try.I ordered some capsules, and in some weeks will run a "clean" complete blood test before the treatment and will keep taking notes of the effects and also a mensal or two-mounths maximum spaced blood tests.

                            My point is, this is a very good, high level forum, you have 60 pages discussing this new product that seems to have potential, but mostly in a very amateur way.First, the basic, number one rule before you start a treatment with a new product like this is to run a full "clean" blood test. Then you make a protocol of posology, and just after that you can start taking notes about effects, and of course, analyze posterior blood tests.

                            So guys, if you want to help the community, and most important, help yourself with a correctly treatment, start doing the things right, taking the medicine like aspirin, and posting random opinions will just cause more confusion.

                            Like I said, I will just start my treatment with the product in some weeks, maybe a month, and I will put my blood tests and feelings here, if there are other users doing this for some time now, please, update us!!

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                            • thechamp
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1763

                              Weight gain

                              So the only way to conteract weight gain on fin is steroids stuff that

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                              • thechamp
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1763

                                Weight gain could be water retention

                                Diddy,

                                I have had hormone tests in the past while on propecia and everything was pretty normal. Altho right now is the time where the weight gain/flabiness is getting real bad. I see the wrinkling on the face.. less fresh/younger looking skin.. and other places on my body with lines/wrinkles/etc where there were none before. I wonder what a hormone test would reveal now, but don't have the insurance to do that anymore (it'd cost me alot more now).

                                I think water retention is a big possibility for a few reasons :

                                1) The areas that are "fatter" don't really look like normal weight.. it looks more like bloating.
                                2) I barely ever have those long urinations.. i barely urinate anymore it seems
                                3) When I exercise or do really active things, my entire shirt is wet.. drenched in sweat. Even my boxers are getting soaked sometimes.. and i'm not a big sweater to say the least.

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