KÉRATENE Alphactive ® Retard

[burtandernie]

Yeah I guess that is true. It does have a pretty small amount of evidence it works though and Im not sure about ordering stuff from other countries like supplements. I dont know maybe once its better known and its quality can be a little more assured. Its still a decent amount of money considering how much propecia that gets me

[aim4hair]

Guys, i have 2 questions:
1) should men stop taking keratene when they are trying to make a family ? (Like fin)
2) can women take this ? (Or it's not recommended for them to take it nor handle a pill with their hands as the case with fin)

[HARIRI]

Guys, i have 2 questions:
1) should men stop taking keratene when they are trying to make a family ? (Like fin)
2) can women take this ? (Or it's not recommended for them to take it nor handle a pill with their hands as the case with fin)

1) No, because it does not affect the person sexually. However If I was in your place I would stop it 3 days before trying to conceive a baby then take them again once the process is done.

2) Yes they can. They are recommended to take one pill a day. But they cant take it if they are pregnant of course.

[HARIRI]

Hariri,

Did you get a chance to do an after-Keratene DHT blood test?

No, its very expensive to do it. Im planning to do another test after I finish my supply in 6 months. Here in Dubai, DHT level testing isnt available so my samples should be sent to France for testing. I hope you can some other US member to do it as its available widely in the country. How about you? Did you test?

[HARIRI]

180 pills would last you 6 months at one per day. $130 for a 6 months supply isn't going to break the bank.

Exactly, its pretty cheap for guys who plan to take it once a day. However screw the price, as long I found something that does not kill my penis and libido with lowering pretty good amount of DHT. Hair deserves ALL.

[ajays]

I have a scheduled appt with my derma in a month's time. I am hoping to get a blood test prescription for DHT. Hopefully it will get covered through insurance.

No, its very expensive to do it. Im planning to do another test after I finish my supply in 6 months. Here in Dubai, DHT level testing isnt available so my samples should be sent to France for testing. I hope you can some other US member to do it as its available widely in the country. How about you? Did you test?

[ajays]

Agree ! Fin is last option for me, I dont care how cheap it is.

It maybe the Keratene guys are charging a premium because it actually works without any major side effects like Fin, etc. (of course I dont buy that there will be absolutely no side effects, but in my opinion they will only be on the milder side compared to synthetic chemical compounds such as Fin)

Exactly, its pretty cheap for guys who plan to take it once a day. However screw the price, as long I found something that does not kill my penis and libido with lowering pretty good amount of DHT. Hair deserves ALL.

[hellouser]

Yeah I guess that is true. It does have a pretty small amount of evidence it works though and Im not sure about ordering stuff from other countries like supplements. I dont know maybe once its better known and its quality can be a little more assured. Its still a decent amount of money considering how much propecia that gets me

If you combine it with other stuff like Minox, RU and CB it could give for some serious results and proper maintenance.

I'm currently on an RU/Minox regimen and waiting for almost a years supply of CB (though will probably use more per dosage, so probably about 6 months supply. I'm seriously thinking about adding keratene to the mix and seeing how things go, as I currently think Saw Palmetto is a really weak DHT inhibitor (better than nothing though)

[Jcm800]

I'm thinking of jumping on this. So in theory 180 capsules one a day is going to last a long time. What is the dosage exactly? I read somewhere that you take according to your bloods? No idea what mine are so assume one a day would be safe initially?

[burtandernie]

I dont know how much faith I have in a random supplement making these claims but I do think propecia is too powerful in a lot of cases even split into .25mg it still inhibits a whole lot of DHT. Some men probably do not need to lower DHT that much.

[burtandernie]

If you combine it with other stuff like Minox, RU and CB it could give for some serious results and proper maintenance.

I'm currently on an RU/Minox regimen and waiting for almost a years supply of CB (though will probably use more per dosage, so probably about 6 months supply. I'm seriously thinking about adding keratene to the mix and seeing how things go, as I currently think Saw Palmetto is a really weak DHT inhibitor (better than nothing though)

Yeah saw palmetto is too weak to do anything for your hair IMO and those other things you mention are not options to me since none of them are approved for public use. I dont buy chemicals of unknown origins from random companies its just way too risky to me.
If I wanted to trade my health for my hair I could pop some oral spiro or dut or some crazy prostate cancer treatments. I am just trying to maintain while not sacrificing anything else.

[burtandernie]

If anyone gets their DHT levels tested with before/after trying this post them here so we can see objectively whether it at least works for some people. I am pretty skeptical they need to prove to me this works not me try it and guess if I think it does.

[Conpecia]

there have been studies with people doing just that. do more research. also several HT doctors offer this and are confident in it. not saying that's definitive proof; i'd like to see one of the BTT guys post before and after dht levels. but i do know it's not just some company saying a bunch of bs with nothing to back it up.

[burtandernie]

I think its suspicious that they say you need to use the shampoo and other things along with those supplement pills to get results.
The pills alone are the only thing there could possibly help because shampoo is not going to make any major difference in MPB I mean even niz has minor regrowth at best.
I tried random hair loss shampoos like revivogen and those none of them do anything despite the random cool sounding ingredients like saw palmetto or whatever.

[burtandernie]

Not to rain on anyone parade, but the size of the study they had was like 13 guys. That is way too small to find sides if they do exist for some men. The sides from fin are directly from lowering DHT levels so if this actually lowers DHT levels to a real degree your going to get sides just as if you took weaker doses of finasteride.
Just because their small study did not find sides does not mean there are not any especially given how new it is with small evidence in comparison to propecia.