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  • Cob984
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 526

    Originally posted by everest13
    I just received my blood test. Before taking anything my dht was 1.08 nmol/l. Now after keratene 1 capsule daily it only dropped to 0.993 nmol/l. there is hardly any change...
    wtf, suggest you let keratene know and ask them whatsup,
    dont tell me im suffering through these sides for no reason

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    • ajays
      Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 90

      If i remember correctly, you had mentioned earlier that your original DHT levels were already low/within reference range. I am sorry to say but taking Keratene or Propecia is not likely to reduce your DHT by a big factor. I think only people with moderate/high DHT might see a noticeable drop if any. I am not a doctor but in my opinion, your hair loss may not be DHT related. Trying to reducing your DHT further if it's already under reference range might do you more harm than good.

      Originally posted by everest13
      I just received my blood test. Before taking anything my dht was 1.08 nmol/l. Now after keratene 1 capsule daily it only dropped to 0.993 nmol/l. there is hardly any change...

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      • everest13
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 27

        Originally posted by ajays
        If i remember correctly, you had mentioned earlier that your original DHT levels were already low/within reference range. I am sorry to say but taking Keratene or Propecia is not likely to reduce your DHT by a big factor. I think only people with moderate/high DHT might see a noticeable drop if any. I am not a doctor but in my opinion, your hair loss may not be DHT related. Trying to reducing your DHT further if it's already under reference range might do you more harm than good.
        Yes it was within the reference range. However the company had still said it should still reduce it much more significantly than the amount ive seen it reduced by. I assumed my follicles just have high sensitivity to DHT. I dont know what other reason I could be losing my hair. Im losing it in the typical norwood pattern. at temples +crown + thinning on top. My uncle from my mothers side also was losing his hair at a young age of 19-20

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        • ajays
          Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 90

          That is possible. I assume you got your DHT tests done through a dermatologist? What's his/her assessment? Just curious, please don't mind me asking.

          Originally posted by everest13
          Yes it was within the reference range. However the company had still said it should still reduce it much more significantly than the amount ive seen it reduced by. I assumed my follicles just have high sensitivity to DHT. I dont know what other reason I could be losing my hair. Im losing it in the typical norwood pattern. at temples +crown + thinning on top. My uncle from my mothers side also was losing his hair at a young age of 19-20

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          • everest13
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 27

            Originally posted by ajays
            That is possible. I assume you got your DHT tests done through a dermatologist? What's his/her assessment? Just curious, please don't mind me asking.
            No it was just through a lab. Havent been able to discuss the results with anyone tbh.

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            • ajays
              Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 90

              My brotherly advice would be to take the results to a dermatologist and discuss next steps.

              I want to get my DHT levels tested as well. Was this in the US? Can you please let me know the name of the lab?

              Originally posted by everest13
              No it was just through a lab. Havent been able to discuss the results with anyone tbh.

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              • everest13
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 27

                Originally posted by ajays
                My brotherly advice would be to take the results to a dermatologist and discuss next steps.

                I want to get my DHT levels tested as well. Was this in the US? Can you please let me know the name of the lab?
                No this wasnt in the US

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                • Stublue
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 5

                  So a quick update. I only had a HT with Dr. Bisanga 7 weeks ago so want to help maintain what I have so I have been on the capsules (1 a day) for the last 5 weeks or so. To be honest I haven't really noticed any change in my hair loss but in fairness my hair loss seems to be very slow and continues to be. I certainly havent noticed any shedding and hair loss is minimal but again, im not entirely sure that's to do with the meds (I'm also on 5% generic minox) or whether i just have a slow receding pattern.

                  One thing is for certain though, i haven't experienced any side effects. I definitely suffered from lower libido with fin (which I gave up around 6 months ago) and my body hair reduced (not such a bad thing I suppose!!). I also lost all my morning woods on fin. All these symptoms are not present with keratene so this is only a good thing! Morning woods are as good as ever!!

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                  • burtandernie
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 1563

                    Originally posted by everest13
                    I just received my blood test. Before taking anything my dht was 1.08 nmol/l. Now after keratene 1 capsule daily it only dropped to 0.993 nmol/l. there is hardly any change...
                    Makes sense why a lot of people dont get sides from this its because it doesnt work. If you lower DHT enough you might get sides but your helping your hair. If you want to lower DHT your best off taking propecia or even a tiny dose because we know it lowers DHT unlike this product which has flimsy evidence at best.

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                    • ajays
                      Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 90

                      Have already made my comments on this in my earlier posts above, but still...

                      His DHT levels are already quite low/within range and it is wishful thinking to expect a huge drop. Still with Keratene he was able to achieve a drop of 8%. It is possible that people with high DHT may see a much bigger percentage drop. I am taking this as a positive sign. I agree there is no conclusive evidence from forum users yet, but the product is new and only the next 6 months or so will prove whether it works or not.

                      Why would you recommend propecia to him? To drop his already low DHT to 0 and get sides as a bonus? Is that going to be a healthy scenario? If sides are indeed necessary to prove efficacy then it should noted that Cob and some users have been getting some sides with Keratene.


                      [QUOTE=burtandernie;114069]Makes sense why a lot of people dont get sides from this its because it doesnt work. If you lower DHT enough you might get sides but your helping your hair. If you want to lower DHT your best off taking propecia or even a tiny dose because we know it lowers DHT unlike this product which has flimsy evidence at best.[/QUO

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                      • yeahyeahyeah
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1776

                        [QUOTE=ajays;114074]Have already made my comments on this in my earlier posts above, but still...

                        His DHT levels are already quite low/within range and it is wishful thinking to expect a huge drop. Still with Keratene he was able to achieve a drop of 8%. It is possible that people with high DHT may see a much bigger percentage drop. I am taking this as a positive sign. I agree there is no conclusive evidence from forum users yet, but the product is new and only the next 6 months or so will prove whether it works or not.

                        Why would you recommend propecia to him? To drop his already low DHT to 0 and get sides as a bonus? Is that going to be a healthy scenario? If sides are indeed necessary to prove efficacy then it should noted that Cob and some users have been getting some sides with Keratene.


                        Originally posted by burtandernie
                        Makes sense why a lot of people dont get sides from this its because it doesnt work. If you lower DHT enough you might get sides but your helping your hair. If you want to lower DHT your best off taking propecia or even a tiny dose because we know it lowers DHT unlike this product which has flimsy evidence at best.[/QUO

                        Yeah - thats probably why he got sides on fin, he has v low DHT levels to begin with.

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                        • yeahyeahyeah
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 1776

                          Originally posted by Jcm800
                          I'm in two minds about ordering this stuff. Then again, nothing else is helping..
                          You have nothing to lose, and by the looks of it, not many are getting sides.

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                          • Conpecia
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 904

                            FINALLY got my capsules! Going to start tomorrow at one a day. Will give it a month then move to two a day if there are no sides.

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                            • vinnytr
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 227

                              please keep reporting your experiences on this guys .
                              I am in desperate need of something that works

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                              • ovoxo
                                Member
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 72

                                2 weeks - 1 capsule a day, no side effects, will give it another week with 1 capsule a day then move to 2 capsules a day; too soon to see some positive effect on hair I think

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