2013

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • neversaynever
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 640

    #76
    Originally posted by Desmond84
    CB could have great potential for those that suffer from side effects with fin. It blocks conversion of Testosterone to DHT but if it gets absorbed in to the blood it immediately breaks down into inactive metabolites.

    The problem is, it is set for release in 2017 which is so long away! By then most of us will be either just shaving our heads or have gone down the path of Histogen + Aderans to fix things up!

    It's a shame that this drug could have been released by 2002 but pharmaceutical companies never saw its potentials!

    -Big sigh-
    2017....

    They're wasting their time. Its suprising that they dont make it a priority, it seems like its bottom of their list.

    Comment

    • Kirby_
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 439

      #77
      Originally posted by neversaynever
      2017....

      They're wasting their time. Its suprising that they dont make it a priority, it seems like its bottom of their list.
      I'm really pessimistic about CB ever being (legitimately) released, TBH. But then I'm pessimistic about anything getting released, knowing the history of MPB treatments....

      Comment

      • neversaynever
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 640

        #78
        Originally posted by Kirby_
        I'm really pessimistic about CB ever being (legitimately) released, TBH. But then I'm pessimistic about anything getting released, knowing the history of MPB treatments....
        Me too. So many drugs never got to phase 3, often for no aparent reason.

        RU, CB, ASC and more that i cant think off. By 2017 i expect histogen and aderans to be with us, so these guys are wasting millions of $$ testing CB.

        ASC looks so interesting. Studies show it degrades the androgen receptor (the dream!). Where is it?

        The only new drugs that I think are worth some hope are the PGD2 blockers.

        Comment

        • Troy
          Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 73

          #79
          PGD2 blockers (crth2 antagonists) seem to work to some extent, but they are not the dream treatment many were hoping...At least the guys experimenting with OC000459 don't report any miracle, just a shedding reduction, wich is a little subjective. Anyway too soon to take conclusions, and we may try other crth2 antagonists, like TM30089, wich also seem promising...

          CB seem to be making it's way to the market, at least for acne treatment, but the vehicle that will be used probably wont do much in the scalp...The studys with iontophoresis were extremely promising, but this definitly is not a simple everyday use "vehicle".

          ASC-J9 seem to give more side effects on people that experimented with it, also we don't know how safe degrading androgen receptors might be, or how the body will respond to that...Personaly I wouldn't go this route.

          RU is still the most successfull experimental treatment so far IMO, although long term effects are uknown, the science behind it sugests it should be relatively safe in the concentrations people are using (but no one can say this for sure, we would need longer studys/trials).

          I strongely believe that there are groups of independent people that sufer from MPB making some interesting advancements, and trying some promising things...If something better comes from this, it will probably be available for people interested in pioneer experimental treatments...

          Right now I can only recommend for people that want to make part of this possible/probable evolution in experimental treatments to pay atention at HLH new group buys, that are bringing some interesting things to us. Over HLH there are some guys willing to help anyone that want to know/experiment.

          Comment

          • Sogeking
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 494

            #80
            Am I the only one who thinks that Aderans with 60% repsonse rate which relies on genetic markers is not a hopeful treatment. I mean imagine if you are in those 40% unluckies, you can't get it and you end up with a scar of one square centimeter.
            Got really disappointed hwen I've read that. Desmond seems really optimistic. On the other hand I am really pessimistic. I've started following the hairloss scene in December 2010. Only thing that changed in those 2 years is emergence of more possible potential treatments. I mean that is good but given the track record of how many of those have been proven to be ineffective or snake oils, I am really sceptical.

            But hey I don't mind being wrong as long as I get my hair back...

            Comment

            • clarence
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 278

              #81
              Originally posted by Sogeking
              Am I the only one who thinks that Aderans with 60% repsonse rate which relies on genetic markers is not a hopeful treatment. I mean imagine if you are in those 40% unluckies, you can't get it and you end up with a scar of one square centimeter.
              square centimeter? Why in the world would they leave you with a bald square in the back of your scalp, rather than just removing the skin and then just patch it up, as is done in a regular strip surgery?

              Comment

              • Kirby_
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 439

                #82
                Am I correct in thinking that dutasterise is literally the only advancement in hairloss treatments over the last decade? Or is dut even older than that?

                Comment

                • Kayman
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 260

                  #83
                  Originally posted by baldybald
                  I think it is so stupid to stop propecia because that temporary side effect. do not be spoiled and get into that damn propecia. Most people think they have side effect because they read garbage from some stupid website. if you think about it and stop taking it, one day you will regret !
                  Side effects like depression? anxiety? brain fog? Temporary or not those are sides I do not want just for the sakes of having hair on my head. Erectile dysfunction that lasts after you come off finasteride? This isn't garbage off of some website it's side effects that are printed on the pamphlet that come with your medicine.

                  Comment

                  • Desmond84
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 987

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Sogeking
                    Am I the only one who thinks that Aderans with 60% repsonse rate which relies on genetic markers is not a hopeful treatment. I mean imagine if you are in those 40% unluckies, you can't get it and you end up with a scar of one square centimeter.
                    Got really disappointed hwen I've read that. Desmond seems really optimistic. On the other hand I am really pessimistic. I've started following the hairloss scene in December 2010. Only thing that changed in those 2 years is emergence of more possible potential treatments. I mean that is good but given the track record of how many of those have been proven to be ineffective or snake oils, I am really sceptical.

                    But hey I don't mind being wrong as long as I get my hair back...
                    Sogeking, the genetic test doesn't require taking a 1cm2 biopsy!

                    This usually involves rubbing a swab inside your cheek or a simple blood test.

                    The 1cm2 biopsy will only be performed once the results come back as a responder...

                    Comment

                    • Desmond84
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 987

                      #85
                      Hey guys,

                      I just found the goldmine.

                      Here is the published report of what's in pipeline for MPB as we speak. The problem is it costs $2000 to access!

                      This is how they describe it: "sourced from Global Markets Direct's proprietary databases, Company/University websites, SEC filings, investor presentations and featured press releases from company/university sites and industry-specific third party sources"

                      Take a look at the table of contents btw! It's got the products we are wishing for so badly!

                      Comment

                      • StinkySmurf
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 124

                        #86
                        Nice Little Nugget

                        Originally posted by Desmond84
                        Hey guys,

                        I just found the goldmine.

                        Here is the published report of what's in pipeline for MPB as we speak. The problem is it costs $2000 to access!
                        Yes, It's an interesting nugget for sure Desmond!

                        Thanks!

                        Comment

                        • StinkySmurf
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 124

                          #87
                          GM-1485 from GliaMed, Inc.

                          Originally posted by Desmond84
                          Take a look at the table of contents btw! It's got the products we are wishing for so badly!

                          http://www.fastmr.com/catalog/produc...id=528049&dt=t
                          Scanning the TOC, this is my 2 cents on the $2000 dollar value:


                          HYUNDAI PHARM. CO., LTD. will market Minox Gel

                          Hygeia Therapeutics, Inc. will market two different topicals, HYG-440 and HYG-102440

                          Histogen and Aderans we know about, but GM-1485 from GliaMed, Inc., is another regenerative cell therapy company thats news to me.

                          Here is a news release from 2009 on GM-1485:

                          GliaMed, Inc., a development stage biopharmaceutical company, today announced that Dr. David Weinstein, chief scientific officer and company founder, will present pre-clinical data demonstrating acceleration of wound healing through the in vivo induction and recruitment of stem cells at the Stem Cells USA & Regenerative Medicine Congress in Washington, D.C.

                          Comment

                          • inspects
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 260

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Desmond84
                            Hey guys,

                            I just found the goldmine.

                            Here is the published report of what's in pipeline for MPB as we speak. The problem is it costs $2000 to access!

                            This is how they describe it: "sourced from Global Markets Direct's proprietary databases, Company/University websites, SEC filings, investor presentations and featured press releases from company/university sites and industry-specific third party sources"

                            Take a look at the table of contents btw! It's got the products we are wishing for so badly!

                            http://www.fastmr.com/catalog/produc...id=528049&dt=t
                            Very nice Desmond....!

                            By doing a couple Google searches I stumbled upon this website after I copy/pasted some of the words in the link you provided.



                            With a free subscription you can search studies and published papers for possible new research and development regarding hair loss, and every other thing known to man.

                            Comment

                            • Desmond84
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 987

                              #89
                              OMG Gliamed is going into Phase 1 for Androgenetic Alopecia in 2013!

                              Why don;t we know anything about these guys!!!!!

                              Comment

                              • Desmond84
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 987

                                #90
                                GliaMed began focusing on small molecule compounds called "immunophilin ligands".

                                These small molecules can induce somatic cells to adopt a stem cell phenotype in vitro and that these induced stem cells could be made to differentiate into cells of different lineages, including muscle cells, neurons and glial cells!

                                This class of small molecules has been termed “Regenerative Immunophilin Ligands” or RILs.

                                Further research in animal models showed that administration of RILs in vivo by topical, oral or parenteral routes resulted in the generation of stem cell-like de-differentiated cells at the sites of trauma, and drove rapid and enhanced regeneration of a variety of tissues, including complex skin tissues, myocytes, bone and brain.

                                GliaMed has shown that RILs induce the de-differentiation of adult human fibroblasts in vitro, and that when these cells are placed under appropriate culture conditions, they can be induced to differentiate into cells that express muscle-specific, neuron-specific or glial-specific markers. The mechanism of action involves induction of transcription factors such as Oct-4 and Sox-2, which are characteristic of stem cells.

                                The company has initiated IND-enabling studies of its lead compound for treatment of androgenetic alopecia,

                                GliaMed has discovered that treating wounds with RILs tips the body’s healing system toward regeneration, resulting in a remarkable reformation of normal tissue at sites of damage. In animal studies, RIL-treated full-thickness wounds have been shown to fully heal and develop all the complex skin structures, including nerves, hair follicles, sweat glands, dermis and epidermis, in less than half the time of untreated wounds.

                                Comment

                                Working...