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  • JJJJrS
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 638

    I don't think there's any point worrying about things like release dates or cost when we don't even know if these treatments are effective. At these point, almost all the numbers and figures that have been released have been underwhelming.

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    • Desmond84
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 987

      OK guys,

      We are now in September 2013 and the cutting edge forum seems to have taken a dive slowly and bit by bit since March!

      When I look back, 2012 was definitely the year of HOPE The positive energy on this forum was just magnificent. Aderans was about to enter Phase 3, while Histogen's Dr Ziering was talking about regrowing hair in the donor zone for new harvestation, and simultaneously Tokyo's Tsuji lab managed to create hair germs that could regrew hairs on skin to its complete natural density (in mice). Cosmo announced it will proceed with approval of CB-03-01 and Histogen's interim results were truly inspiring!

      Then came 2013 and by May we all had our eyes set on the Hair Congress So much information was being filtered through the forum and we could smell the cure from miles away! God that was so exciting! Joe from Staten Island had so much to talk about almost every week

      But then we took a nose-dive! Allegran's Bimatoprost trial results turned out to be unsatisfactory, Histogen's progress came to a snail's pace, and Aderans went into liquidation in a heartbeat! We've had a rough year with small glimmers of hope...

      Replicel managed to get more funding for a 2b trial and Histogen has finally gathered enough resources to do some mini-trials in Taiwan by December. Follica came back from the grave but no date has been announced for their next set of trials.

      All in all...we are NOT exactly where we wanted to be BUT there are still players in the game with new ones entering! Incentis pharmaceuticals is one example which has just began its preclinical trials (although we know nothing about their therapy)...

      Tsuji lab still has a lot to work out before a human trial, while Lauster/Gerd are looking for a potential investor to begin their work for the first in man trial...Dr Gerd agreed to work with Dr Nigam, but Dr Nigam is NOT ready yet to proceed.

      So, I guess that's my summary of the last 2 years for all those infrequent visitors and the newcomers

      To a better time when we rock our mohawks like a BOSS

      Cheers

      - Des

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      • HARIRI
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 467

        Originally posted by Desmond84
        OK guys,

        We are now in September 2013 and the cutting edge forum seems to have taken a dive slowly and bit by bit since March!

        When I look back, 2012 was definitely the year of HOPE The positive energy on this forum was just magnificent. Aderans was about to enter Phase 3, while Histogen's Dr Ziering was talking about regrowing hair in the donor zone for new harvestation, and simultaneously Tokyo's Tsuji lab managed to create hair germs that could regrew hairs on skin to its complete natural density (in mice). Cosmo announced it will proceed with approval of CB-03-01 and Histogen's interim results were truly inspiring!

        Then came 2013 and by May we all had our eyes set on the Hair Congress So much information was being filtered through the forum and we could smell the cure from miles away! God that was so exciting! Joe from Staten Island had so much to talk about almost every week

        But then we took a nose-dive! Allegran's Bimatoprost trial results turned out to be unsatisfactory, Histogen's progress came to a snail's pace, and Aderans went into liquidation in a heartbeat! We've had a rough year with small glimmers of hope...

        Replicel managed to get more funding for a 2b trial and Histogen has finally gathered enough resources to do some mini-trials in Taiwan by December. Follica came back from the grave but no date has been announced for their next set of trials.

        All in all...we are NOT exactly where we wanted to be BUT there are still players in the game with new ones entering! Incentis pharmaceuticals is one example which has just began its preclinical trials (although we know nothing about their therapy)...

        Tsuji lab still has a lot to work out before a human trial, while Lauster/Gerd are looking for a potential investor to begin their work for the first in man trial...Dr Gerd agreed to work with Dr Nigam, but Dr Nigam is NOT ready yet to proceed.

        So, I guess that's my summary of the last 2 years for all those infrequent visitors and the newcomers

        To a better time when we rock our mohawks like a BOSS

        Cheers

        - Des
        Great Recap Desmond84

        What are your thoughts about members going to use the CB-03-01 formula ordered from Iron Dragon or Kane and mixed with Ethanol/PG?

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        • Desmond84
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 987

          God Hariri, I really thought we'd be hearing some amazing news by now!

          Did you hear about Rooney! He didn't take Fin after his HT back in 2011 and now he's got these massive bald patches in his crown...so he's gone in for another $30,000 HT! So far he's wasted something like $70,000 to fix his hair and he still looks like he's balding! I mean imagine what you can do with $70,000!

          We really need some new breakthroughs ASAP

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          • simba
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 103

            Originally posted by Desmond84
            God Hariri, I really thought we'd be hearing some amazing news by now!

            Did you hear about Rooney! He didn't take Fin after his HT back in 2011 and now he's got these massive bald patches in his crown...so he's gone in for another $30,000 HT! So far he's wasted something like $70,000 to fix his hair and he still looks like he's balding! I mean imagine what you can do with $70,000!

            We really need some new breakthroughs ASAP
            I think Fin is a banned substance for athletes because it can be used as a masking agent for PEDS.

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            • Scientalk56
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 280

              and Histogen has finally gathered enough resources to do some mini-trials in Taiwan by December.
              where did you hear that ?!?!?

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              • Nerve
                Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 65

                Nice one Des.
                Your posts are the only ones I bother to read.

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                • Desmond84
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 987

                  Originally posted by Scientalk56
                  where did you hear that ?!?!?
                  Hey

                  Some of our members managed to get it out of Gail Naughton through emails! I'm pretty sure it was legit I just wish they could start Phase 2b already rather than these investigator mini-trials! They have their reasons I'm sure

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                  • Jcm800
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 2614

                    Hey Des, sorry to hijack. How's it going with your Fin use? I'm thinning a lot, not on the drug but edging closer to trying it..

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                    • UK_
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2691

                      Yes a lot of the information comes straight from Gail if you email her, but dont bother her too much - let her get on with working on HSC.

                      I was also wondering, if we should just wire some donations to Gail via Paypal?

                      What do you guys think about this? She could use this money to help speed up research.

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                      • Desmond84
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 987

                        Originally posted by Jcm800
                        Hey Des, sorry to hijack. How's it going with your Fin use? I'm thinning a lot, not on the drug but edging closer to trying it..
                        Hey man

                        I don't know if you've been reading my thread the last few days, but all sides have now disappeared and my libido is back to pre-fin! This happened just a week after I reached the 12th month mark!

                        I'm still only taking it Tuesdays and Fridays + Nizoral 1%....

                        Hair's staying strong! Temples are still holding where they were last year which is great... 0.25 mg TWICE WEEKLY definitely works and the sides are tolerable!

                        I really think everyone should give this regimen a shot before writing off fin.

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                        • Desmond84
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 987

                          Originally posted by UK_
                          Yes a lot of the information comes straight from Gail if you email her, but dont bother her too much - let her get on with working on HSC.
                          I agree 100% ...sometimes bothering her can do more harm than good.

                          Originally posted by UK_
                          I was also wondering, if we should just wire some donations to Gail via Paypal?

                          What do you guys think about this? She could use this money to help speed up research.
                          I really think we should have an organisation to represent us before doing anything like this! Hellouser and Axel are working on this and it sounds very exciting!

                          We can even use some of that money to have representatives at these Hair research conferences to get up to date info about what is happening!

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                          • NeedHairASAP
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 1408

                            Originally posted by Desmond84
                            Hey man

                            I don't know if you've been reading my thread the last few days, but all sides have now disappeared and my libido is back to pre-fin! This happened just a week after I reached the 12th month mark!

                            I'm still only taking it Tuesdays and Fridays + Nizoral 1%....

                            Hair's staying strong! Temples are still holding where they were last year which is great... 0.25 mg TWICE WEEKLY definitely works and the sides are tolerable!

                            I really think everyone should give this regimen a shot before writing off fin.

                            I was always curious why more people didn't just take way lower doses

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                            • Thinning87
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 839

                              Originally posted by Desmond84
                              I agree 100% ...sometimes bothering her can do more harm than good.



                              I really think we should have an organisation to represent us before doing anything like this! Hellouser and Axel are working on this and it sounds very exciting!

                              We can even use some of that money to have representatives at these Hair research conferences to get up to date info about what is happening!
                              Agreed. And I think it's important to have a clear mission statement and goals BEFORE the site is launched. Not during, not after, if people are going to donate they will do so for something credible.

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4419

                                Originally posted by Thinning87
                                Agreed. And I think it's important to have a clear mission statement and goals BEFORE the site is launched. Not during, not after, if people are going to donate they will do so for something credible.
                                That is the plan. There's a LOT of planning involved before anything like this is launched. Thats where all the focus needs to be to ensure a proper and successful execution of a campaign of this potential size. Curing hair loss means as much to mean as it does to so many of you, and i'm sure some of you are more beat up about it than I am, but I do have my moments where I feel like i'm at the shit end of the stick with societies perception of me and my hair loss. I would give everything to reverse it. That said, expect the absolute best effort from me to get this done right

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