About to start RU, need directions...

[StayThick]

I did for the first few times and now I eye-ball it....it takes like 5 mins to make a week batch now

Just placed my order from Kane for 10G of RU and 60ML of KB solution.

How much should I apply if sides are a concern, yet still want to achieve desired results? I don't want to start too aggressive because I had serious sides with FIN including cognitive issues. What dose would you recommend I start with?

By the way, thanks for helping. I knew exactly what to order.

[FearTheLoss]

Perfect. I'm going to order it now.

Fear: you are using a digital scale correct to effectively dose the RU?

I did for the first few times and now I eye-ball it....it takes like 5 mins to make a week batch now

[StayThick]

Just KB. Mix 50-100mg of RU with 1ml kb and apply. You can mix weekly batches, but keep them sealed in the fridge/dark cool area.

Perfect. I'm going to order it now.

Fear: you are using a digital scale correct to effectively dose the RU?

[FearTheLoss]

Hellouser: Going to buy this and try it. Done watching my hair tank. As far as vehicle goes, I'll just need KB solution from Kane correct? Or will I need both KB & Everclear?

I'll need to order a digital scale as well.

Just KB. Mix 50-100mg of RU with 1ml kb and apply. You can mix weekly batches, but keep them sealed in the fridge/dark cool area.

[StayThick]

KB is also a good vehicle for RU, if you can't get Everclear, definitely get KB.

Get if from Kane here; http://dft.ba/-kane

Hellouser: Going to buy this and try it. Done watching my hair tank. As far as vehicle goes, I'll just need KB solution from Kane correct? Or will I need both KB & Everclear?

I'll need to order a digital scale as well.

[Cob984]

Longwayhome can you update us on the RU?
Experience so far? more importantly, any sides yet?

[BaldJerry]

RU, valproic acid are the 2 that I have tried thus far. I am going to try CB very soon. CB seems most promising and safest. I have CB but I have the wrong form so I will be getting form3 very soon!

Sides I got from RU were strange muscle twitches and cramps but they seem to diminish with time. VPA has not sides as far as I know and is supposed to be better than minox. I think it is in phase 2 studies as well.

[StayThick]

Keep in mind though I think people are crazy to try these options without seeing how fin or dut fairs for them. No joke, if either did the trick for me I would not mess with experimentals. They have sides too and I experienced them!

What experimental treatment did you try and what were the sides?

[jlantern]

I'll 3rd that. RU definitely works! But other things work too like CB and ASC-J9. I have seen great photo results of each. IT's great to have all these options!

I havn't used CB or ASC-J9. If in the next 4 months my crown does not thicken up ill start CB

[BaldJerry]

I'll 3rd that. RU definitely works! But other things work too like CB and ASC-J9. I have seen great photo results of each. IT's great to have all these options!

Keep in mind though I think people are crazy to try these options without seeing how fin or dut fairs for them. No joke, if either did the trick for me I would not mess with experimentals. They have sides too and I experienced them!

[BaldJerry]

Ill second what hellouser said about RU. I am also seeing results, right now lots of small hairs growing pretty long that were never there before. In a few weeks ill be posting my second picture which should be about 2.5 months into treatment. If the hairs RU has grown thus far get thicker(length is already there) ill be at a NW1 from a NW2.

Good luck

I'll 3rd that. RU definitely works! But other things work too like CB and ASC-J9. I have seen great photo results of each. IT's great to have all these options!

[BaldJerry]

Not to be rude, but where exactly is the evidence that this works? I'm definitely thinking of getting on it soon, since Propecia gave my slight gyno sides, and I could use a boost in the hairline region anyways, but if you search the product on google, you don't seem to get many studies or anything really legitimate about RU.

Maybe I'm doing the searches wrong or not looking in the right places, but aside from the one guy's story (irishpride or whatever), I haven't found any actual studies. If someone could link me to the science/efficacy of these treatments, at least on a small scale (since it obviously it made it to the market), that would be great, thanks!

You won't find a ton of legitimate information on RU. I have searched for a year and found very little. It went through phase 2 studies with a company called Prostraiken. However, the studies were never made public in either the phase 1 nor phase 2 studies. I have found the text where the CEO of Prostraiken claiming RU is better than fin at 6 month period. That's all I've found! The monkey study, the mouse study really don't mean shit to me. There is basically no human studies available. I even emailed Prokstraken asking them for the study.


CB seems to be more promising in this area as far as studies go. It also seems to be more promising in terms of safety and efficacy. It is in its early stages of use with the general population sp prices are high and getting the exact correct formulation has been difficult for some. I bet soon we will all have legit form 111 CB and growing many, many hairs!

[jlantern]

Ill second what hellouser said about RU. I am also seeing results, right now lots of small hairs growing pretty long that were never there before. In a few weeks ill be posting my second picture which should be about 2.5 months into treatment. If the hairs RU has grown thus far get thicker(length is already there) ill be at a NW1 from a NW2.

Good luck

[hellouser]

If RU was being developed but didn't make it, how did people know the vehicle with RU? (is there a study that there isn't for CB?)

I don't know as I've only been aware of RU since 2 years ago, but anyone that knows basic chemistry/biology would have figured out that if it can dissolve in ethanol and dry slower with PG, then it would work well. You could say there were others doing a trial and error with vehicles. I'm sure there was some mention of the vehicle in the original studies a long time ago with RU.

Has there ever been an RU study? A CB one?

Yes and YES. Cosmo is doing clinical trials on CB-03-01, you should look into their findings.

If not a study of efficacy, then has there been a study of the science behind it? Anything?

Yes. You'll have to search around on the net. Cosmo is pretty open about what CB, just refer to their site, follow their newsletter and you'll get updates on what theyre up to.

Or are there no RU studies and the product is based on forum members only. Again, that doesn't necessarily it de-legitimize it for me, but I would like some straight answers to the questions if you know them.

I'm fairly sure there were studies on it before it got shelved. Regardless, many people are seeing results with it.

[hellouser]

Hellouser: What should I jump on to see results? My hair has started tanking as of late and I desperately need to do something else.

I'm currently using Rogain Foam and Capillogain topically and nothing orally, besides vitamin E (TocoCaps) and MSM and vitC.

I CANNOT use Fin, but desperately need to do something internally. Is RU the answer. Where do I go from here man? Sh*t is starting to get depressing for me as I just saw photos of me in bright lighting at an outside work event. I almost fainted.

RU, definitely should be your #1 choice. But it needs to be at high doses in order to be effective. In my opinion, 30mg or less is useless and a complete waste of money.

If you still want to be taking something orally, I'd probably give Keratene a try. If not, at least Saw Palmetto.

I'm fairly sure I've made some significant gains with Minox and RU. I'll post photos eventually, but gotta compile everything and write out a *clear* and easy to understand log.