Histogen at the ISHRS conference

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  • 534623
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1854

    Originally posted by clandestine
    ***** off back to hair site Ironman, you don't contribute anything here.
    Sorry, can’t do that, because HS’s “Hair Loss Research & Clinical Trials” forum has been hijacked (now it’s rather a chatroom for idiots) by some useless snake-oil jockeys – like you.

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    • UK Boy
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 240

      Originally posted by 534623
      Sorry, can’t do that, because HS’s “Hair Loss Research & Clinical Trials” forum has been hijacked (now it’s rather a chatroom for idiots) by some useless snake-oil jockeys – like you.
      I have to agree with Ironman on this. Whenever I check out HS the topics are just not informative and include an awful lot of arguing.

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      • FearTheLoss
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 1581

        well we are less than 2 months away from a major histogen update...either way it's make or break with this one!

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        • Thinning87
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 839

          Originally posted by 534623
          @UK Boy – as you can see yourself, your post is pretty long and actually consists just of (serious) questions. That means, to give you proper answers, is not easy without proper explanations – sometimes it’s necessary to go a little bit deeper and sometimes in such a way (with pics etc) so that even a layman is able to understand all points. So doing this takes time…

          … but after reading my answers (I’ll try it sometime later), in future, you WILL be far more critically in general as soon as you hear something about new “hair loss cures” – what on the other hand can be considered as “hope killer” and what finally just makes some guys “ironman killers”. So – what?
          HAHAHA no answer! What a clown! You're such a loser

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          • HARIRI
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 467

            Originally posted by FearTheLoss
            well we are less than 2 months away from a major histogen update...either way it's make or break with this one!
            Fingers crossed

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            • mjolnir
              Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 67

              Originally posted by FearTheLoss
              well we are less than 2 months away from a major histogen update...either way it's make or break with this one!
              Here's hoping for something amazing. Or rather, something even more amazing than what we've seen so far. As I've said before, we pretty much know this stuff works (and there are pictures to prove it, even if we don't know how they compare to 'average' results) - the main question now is how well, and how safely.

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              • Thinning87
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 839

                I don't know if this has been posted, it's somewhat related to HSC: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oba...lex-2013-01-30

                Basically (if I remember correctly), the same company is supposed to manufacture the HSC hair product in the future. I think this can be taken as good news, although again the article and agreement are not about HSC so let's not get too excited. But, an operational agreement to manufacture and sell Histogen products can only be beneficial for Histogen in the future if other more interesting products make it to FDA approval.

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                • goingquick
                  Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 63

                  Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                  well we are less than 2 months away from a major histogen update...either way it's make or break with this one!
                  Could you give more details on this? Will this be the conclusion of the phase II trials, or just another periodic measurement?

                  I'm really hoping Histogen knocks it out of the park, since I think they're about the best hope we've got for a regrowth at this point.

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                  • Desmond84
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 987

                    There will be 2 Phase II trials:

                    - Phase IIa was completed in Dec 2012 and their final data (12 months results) will be released sometimes between now and June! and

                    - Phase IIb will hopefully start sometimes before the end of the year.

                    Hope that helps...I can't wait either

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                    • hellouser
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 4419

                      Originally posted by Desmond84
                      There will be 2 Phase II trials:

                      - Phase IIa was completed in Dec 2012 and their final data (12 months results) will be released sometimes between now and June! and

                      - Phase IIb will hopefully start sometimes before the end of the year.

                      Hope that helps...I can't wait either
                      How long is Phase IIb supposed to last?

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                      • Dazza
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 264

                        Originally posted by Desmond84
                        There will be 2 Phase II trials:

                        - Phase IIa was completed in Dec 2012 and their final data (12 months results) will be released sometimes between now and June! and

                        - Phase IIb will hopefully start sometimes before the end of the year.

                        Hope that helps...I can't wait either
                        will a phase3 still be required or does the phase2a / 2b suffice?

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                        • FearTheLoss
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1581

                          I thought there was talk about combining phase II and III, but I could be wrong. Des knows more on histogen so he can clarify. They are on track for 2015 release in Asia and 2016-17 for the US.

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                          • goingquick
                            Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 63

                            Originally posted by Desmond84
                            There will be 2 Phase II trials:

                            - Phase IIa was completed in Dec 2012 and their final data (12 months results) will be released sometimes between now and June! and

                            - Phase IIb will hopefully start sometimes before the end of the year.

                            Hope that helps...I can't wait either
                            Thanks Desmond.

                            What's the reason for a phase IIB?

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                            • HARIRI
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 467

                              Originally posted by goingquick
                              Thanks Desmond.

                              What's the reason for a phase IIB?
                              It really pisses me off when I hear Phase IIB, I have no clue why Histogen wants to prolong the trial II phase??? I never heard of this before. This means another delayed year for IIB results which makes it in total 2 years with Phase III !!! I hope Desmond84 enlighten us on it.

                              I only have strong hopes in Histogen, weak ones in Aderans and very weak ones in Replicel.

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                              • koolx
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 115

                                ok they said they'd update us this month with pics from the 12-month trial. so far i havent seen any pics. its almost march already.. where the hell are the pics??

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