Histogen at the ISHRS conference

[UK Boy]

exactly what i'm talking about.

we're not talkig about data. we're talking about pics that histogen PROMISED to post in their 12-month trial in feb. we're aday away from march now. since they didnt live up to their promise they failed as a potential treatment option.

I'm not 100% sure because I didn't get round to finding the interview and listening to it but I'm gonna wager that it was Dr. Ziering who promised to post pics in Feb, I'd imagine that he said it during the interview Spencer did with him following the ISHRS back in Oct. Now although Dr. Ziering is connected to Histogen he is not Histogen, if Gail Naughton had promised photos and then not lived up to the promise then you could blame Histogen. Dr. Ziering is running his own trial of HSC seperate from the official clinical trials that Histogen is running. He has previously provided photos from his own trial and although they showed good cosmetic improvement on first glance they were soon 'discredited' by members of the forum and also members of the ISHRS such as Dr. Cole as the photos were not taken from exactly the same angle and in exactly the same lighting etc. The thing is I don't think Dr. Ziering thought about all these things when he took the photos, the photos won't be used to prove Histogen's effects to the FDA cos they're not part of the offical study, so he didn't go all ultra professional when he took the pics, he just literally 'took some pics' showing the same person and the same area, don't think he expected them to be picked to pieces, he was trying to do us a favour and show people what he was excited about - cosmetically significant regrowth in a very short period of time.

So basically what I'm saying is don't blame Histogen, they never promised the pics and certainly don't start shouting that Histogen has failed cos of it, there was a guy who started shouting that Histogen had failed back in 2011 cos they changed their website and he soon had to take it all back.

Now if you want you could blame Dr. Ziering for not keeping his promise but to be honest I don't blame him for not rushing to post his pics of the forum given the response he got from the last ones. You only have to read posts from the likes of Ironman, just look back on this thread, he said he wants to know when Histogen are going to post their 'chinese website style photos'. Would you really be al that bothered to spend the time posting photos when members like that are then going to use them to fuel their arguements as to why HSC doesn't work? Back in 2011 Dr. Ziering actually used to come on the firum and answer people's questions in regards to Histogen but now he doesn't bother cos of all the negative users harassing him.

Histogen have said that they'll make an announcement in spring so until then we'll just have to wait. Spencer will prob arrange an interview with Dr. Ziering following the announcement and hopefully he'll be nice enough to provide more pics then.

[koolx]

Now if you want you could blame Dr. Ziering for not keeping his promise but to be honest I don't blame him for not rushing to post his pics of the forum given the response he got from the last ones.

u dont get it. and ur convoluting the issue. it doesnt matter if the company promised the pics or not, they still said that they would publish the pics in feb. they failed to do so cuz histogen is a failure. thats the bottom line. if histogen were a true success the pics would show that.

its been more than a yr that test patients were injected with histogen. it doesnt take much to snap a pic and post one-yr long results. since histogen failed to do so, it means theyre disapointed with the results.

[re22]

Where did they say that they were going to post pictures in February?

[koolx]

Where did they say that they were going to post pictures in February?

read back previous pages and check out the november interview.

[hellouser]

it doesnt take much to snap a pic and post one-yr long results. since histogen failed to do so, it means theyre disapointed with the results.

LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!

That is some of the most ridiculous logic I've ever heard! Holy shit, how can you fail so bad?

[Thinning87]

u dont get it. and ur convoluting the issue. it doesnt matter if the company promised the pics or not, they still said that they would publish the pics in feb. they failed to do so cuz histogen is a failure. thats the bottom line. if histogen were a true success the pics would show that.

its been more than a yr that test patients were injected with histogen. it doesnt take much to snap a pic and post one-yr long results. since histogen failed to do so, it means theyre disapointed with the results.

You're missing the point - it's not the company that promised the pictures, it's Dr. Ziering that said he should have pictures in Feb - Very different thing.

I don't understand why you're freaking out honestly - there's probably going to be a big announcement in 2 weeks so just rest up a bit and think of something else.

[koolx]

LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!

That is some of the most ridiculous logic I've ever heard! Holy shit, how can you fail so bad?

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

u seriously got comprehension issues, youre the stupidest bald person i ever came across.. how can u be so stupid and gay?

[hellouser]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

u seriously got comprehension issues, youre the stupidest bald person i ever came across.. how can u be so stupid and gay?

Gay? Really? Resorting to homophobic insults? Is that your hail mary rebuttal?

[koolx]

Gay? Really? Resorting to homophobic insults? Is that your hail mary rebuttal?

hail mary rebutal??? did u think that up all by yourself or did your boyfriend help u?

[bananana]

I just got a mail from mrs. Brandt from Histogen
(I asked about the new results 2 months back):

"Dear xxx,
Thank you for your interest and message. In response to your questions, Histogen has recently completed a Phase I/II clinical trial of HSC, and results from the final timepoints of that trial are still being analyzed.

You can find the most recent announcement from this trial here: http://www.histogen.com/aboutus/news_events.htm#38, and we anticipate sharing final results soon. Please do check back to our website in the next couple of months for the latest HSC and Histogen news.

Thank you"

Cant wait for those results..

[Henkeh91]

I just got a mail from mrs. Brandt from Histogen
(I asked about the new results 2 months back):

"Dear xxx,
Thank you for your interest and message. In response to your questions, Histogen has recently completed a Phase I/II clinical trial of HSC, and results from the final timepoints of that trial are still being analyzed.

You can find the most recent announcement from this trial here: http://www.histogen.com/aboutus/news_events.htm#38, and we anticipate sharing final results soon. Please do check back to our website in the next couple of months for the latest HSC and Histogen news.

Thank you"

Cant wait for those results..

Hopefully some great results!

[koolx]

I just got a mail from mrs. Brandt from Histogen
(I asked about the new results 2 months back):

"Dear xxx,
Thank you for your interest and message. In response to your questions, Histogen has recently completed a Phase I/II clinical trial of HSC, and results from the final timepoints of that trial are still being analyzed.

You can find the most recent announcement from this trial here: http://www.histogen.com/aboutus/news_events.htm#38, and we anticipate sharing final results soon. Please do check back to our website in the next couple of months for the latest HSC and Histogen news.

Thank you"

Cant wait for those results..

i appreciate the update. but this DOES NOT excuse histogen's failure of posting pics that they proclaimed they would for feb. its been more than a yr. it doesnt take a genius to snap a pic of test subjects after 12 months of testing. again, they said they would post the pics in feb.

why is it so hard for everyone to accept this? its cuz ppl are in denial. theyre so desperate and so hopeful that maybe this drug could be their cure. i got news for u type of guys. its far from a total cure. the reason why histogen failed to post results after a yr is cuz theyre disapointed with the results and know that u will be also.

[hellouser]

i appreciate the update. but this DOES NOT excuse histogen's failure of posting pics that they proclaimed they would for feb. its been more than a yr. it doesnt take a genius to snap a pic of test subjects after 12 months of testing. again, they said they would post the pics in feb.

why is it so hard for everyone to accept this? its cuz ppl are in denial. theyre so desperate and so hopeful that maybe this drug could be their cure. i got news for u type of guys. its far from a total cure. the reason why histogen failed to post results after a yr is cuz theyre disapointed with the results and know that u will be also.

You have ZERO information about what their results are or are not. Quit lying to everyone on the forum, you troll.

[koolx]

You have ZERO information about what their results are or are not. Quit lying to everyone on the forum, you troll.

exactly my point.. duhhh!!!!!!!! stop defending histogen so much.. ur coming across like u work for the company.. u homo.

[Conpecia]

i appreciate the update. but this DOES NOT excuse histogen's failure of posting pics that they proclaimed they would for feb. its been more than a yr. it doesnt take a genius to snap a pic of test subjects after 12 months of testing. again, they said they would post the pics in feb.

why is it so hard for everyone to accept this? its cuz ppl are in denial. theyre so desperate and so hopeful that maybe this drug could be their cure. i got news for u type of guys. its far from a total cure. the reason why histogen failed to post results after a yr is cuz theyre disapointed with the results and know that u will be also.

gotta agree with koolx here. if they had game-changing pics we'd know by now. they wouldn't agree to post pics in february, then make a huge step toward the cure, then not show the pics. wouldn't happen. i don't expect anything big from the world congress whatsoever, and i don't expect anything from histogen for at least 3 years if not longer.