Histogen at the ISHRS conference

[vinnytr]

What about the possibility of unlimited donor hair? That is a big deal too!

That would just be awesome !!

[Hair Bear]

What about the possibility of unlimited donor hair? That is a big deal too!

Sure if you have unlimited funds to finance hair transplants and then injections on donor sites.

I don't see the costs of hair transplants going down even after an alternative such as histogen is found as hair transplants are labor intensive and require a lot of time, artistry, skill, effort, and patience to perform.
Yes I am aware that there is an automated bot that can perform the task but it remains to be seen if it is at all useful or as good as a human.

All in all regardless of what kiwi has said here I do feel histogen is on to something and can only hope it scales well.

[Kiwi]

Sure if you have unlimited funds to finance hair transplants and then injections on donor sites.

I don't see the costs of hair transplants going down even after an alternative such as histogen is found as hair transplants are labor intensive and require a lot of time, artistry, skill, effort, and patience to perform.
Yes I am aware that there is an automated bot that can perform the task but it remains to be seen if it is at all useful or as good as a human.

All in all regardless of what kiwi has said here I do feel histogen is on to something and can only hope it scales well.

Say what :P

I got this thread started. I'm a massive fan of histogen and hope it works!!!

[Scientalk56]

Im very confused on the american process.

A: why hasn't it started?
B: why cant it go at the same time as the asian one?
C: Why does it take an extra 2-3 years?

After phase III b is done, they have to take FDA approval to be able to market it in USA. and this wil take another year at least.

[Pate]

But could they space out those injections to cover an NW6 zone, or do they have to adhere to 50 injections within one square inch (or 2.5 square inch if they are doing 6mm spacing, as you mentioned in a previous post).

They could theoretically space them out as much as they (or you) want. Even single injections grew hair in the Phase I/II trial.

[john2399]

So is this the plan in 2 years, get hair transplant + histogen and expect a good amount of hair? I guess we have a little hope.

[Hair Bear]

Say what :P

I got this thread started. I'm a massive fan of histogen and hope it works!!!

Sorry Kiwi, what i wrote didn't translate well as to what I meant, what I actually meant was that histogen has been doing really well for some time now, even before reading the wonderful news you posted I expected histogen to have something plausible to bring to the table, I just like to keep my enthusiasm at a realistic level as I know there is still a lot of work to do.

At this point I guess the staff at histogen will once again assess its results and decide if they are happy with it or not, they may want to tweak it more which may result into added time, months if not years so I wouldn't really like to speculate on a timeline right now until release.

[FearTheLoss]

Sure if you have unlimited funds to finance hair transplants and then injections on donor sites.

I don't see the costs of hair transplants going down even after an alternative such as histogen is found as hair transplants are labor intensive and require a lot of time, artistry, skill, effort, and patience to perform.
Yes I am aware that there is an automated bot that can perform the task but it remains to be seen if it is at all useful or as good as a human.

All in all regardless of what kiwi has said here I do feel histogen is on to something and can only hope it scales well.

Yes, but if someone is a NW4 or NW5 and got a transplant and then added histogen to the mix and got another transplant that could be life changing. Also, once the ht hair is in place on top they wouldn't have to do anything as that hair is not susceptible to DHT so their hairloss problem would be at bay.

[SoClose]

Please excuse what may be novice questions, but I'm a little confused about Histogen; does it have the potential to grow entirely new hair, and if so, how?

The other question I have is regarding SMP and Histogen. If I got a scalp tattoo, would that affect my chances of success with something like Histogen and/or a hair transplant?

Apologies if these are already answered; a lot of these threads are hundreds of pages long and I don't really have the time to sift through them. Thanks.

[neversaynever]

perhaps spencer can ask them about the issue with the macro shots. The shots are either different people or there is no visible improvement.

So hopeful of histogen, but there is something strange about it all.

[Jasari]

essentially the moment histogen arrives one shouldnt ever develop a norwood level greater than their norwood at the time of the release.

For everyone below 20 it should be a cure.

With a hair transpant a norwood 5 with histogen could get the illusion of full coverage - most norwood 6s might look alittle thin still.

[2020]

flawless logic from you people... it can increase density by 40% with each round of shots.
NW1 is 100%, NW6 is 20%. That's 500% difference. 20*1.40*1.40*1.40.... wouldn't you eventually get to that starting 100%? Where is the ****ing logic in that? Growth is compoundable. What is the problem?

The real issue here is their secrecy and their poor pictures. Where are those new before/after pictures by the way? That's a major problem. It's equally likely that Histogen will fail and then we won't get anything. It's HSC or nothing. I wouldn't count on anything else for the next 10+ years

[Jasari]

flawless logic from you people... it can increase density by 40% with each round of shots.
NW1 is 100%, NW6 is 20%. That's 500% difference. 20*1.40*1.40*1.40.... wouldn't you eventually get to that starting 100%? Where is the ****ing logic in that? Growth is compoundable. What is the problem?

The real issue here is their secrecy and their poor pictures. Where are those new before/after pictures by the way? That's a major problem. It's equally likely that Histogen will fail and then we won't get anything. It's HSC or nothing. I wouldn't count on anything else for the next 10+ years

[FearTheLoss]

On a serious note, this is going to turn into a very depressing forum if Histogen releases bad results in February or gives up on the HSC....

I believe everyone should just go on the "FearTheLosss Big 3" for now..

Propecia (to maintain/hopeful growth) Nizoral (scalp condition) and PRAY (pray that those work and that histogen releases this product soon)

[Pate]

Please excuse what may be novice questions, but I'm a little confused about Histogen; does it have the potential to grow entirely new hair, and if so, how?

The other question I have is regarding SMP and Histogen. If I got a scalp tattoo, would that affect my chances of success with something like Histogen and/or a hair transplant?

Apologies if these are already answered; a lot of these threads are hundreds of pages long and I don't really have the time to sift through them. Thanks.

Nobody knows for sure yet. Histogen have talked about growing new follicles but haven't proven it yet. They apparently tried it on slick bald scalp in the latest round of trials, Ziering mentioned it in a previous interview with Spencer IIRC. But no word on whether it grew anything at all. But it may not need to generate new follicles if it can resuscitate nearly dead ones.

Replicel on the other hand has been proven to grow new follicles in mice, but their human results were underwhelming.