Histogen at the ISHRS conference

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  • Kiwi
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    Originally posted by FearTheLoss
    mid 2015-early 2016 for Asia and probably 2 years after for the states...


    either way, if this works, I'm headed to Asia to get it sooner.
    Ya never know - Aderans is in phase III so something might happen sooner if we're very lucky!

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  • FearTheLoss
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    mid 2015-early 2016 for Asia and probably 2 years after for the states...


    either way, if this works, I'm headed to Asia to get it sooner.
    Last edited by FearTheLoss; 01-11-2013, 12:09 AM. Reason: typo

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  • Kiwi
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    Originally posted by Thinning87
    If the product works well once released a couple years doesn't scare me at all. There's not a whole lot more to add to what's been said in the last couple pages, at this point we have to wait and see what the results say when the product is released
    So 2015 in Asia if we're all really lucky.

    I dont want to look like this:

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  • Thinning87
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    If the product works well once released a couple years doesn't scare me at all. There's not a whole lot more to add to what's been said in the last couple pages, at this point we have to wait and see what the results say when the product is released

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  • rdawg
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    Originally posted by john2399
    Isn't it been said that they can run phase 2b and 3 at the same time?
    not in the states, it may be possible in Europe however.

    All in all, they are on track for a 2015-2016 release.

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  • john2399
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    Originally posted by Kiwi
    I wish they were in III now. I'd gladly take a couple of shots now :P
    Isn't it been said that they can run phase 2b and 3 at the same time?

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  • Kiwi
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    Originally posted by rdawg
    Phase IIB is next, not III. IIB they're going to try and improve the product even more.

    Phase III I belive the product is near finalized, and they just have to test it out on a large scale(300+ patients)
    I wish they were in III now. I'd gladly take a couple of shots now :P

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  • rdawg
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    Originally posted by FearTheLoss
    yeah 50 on this last one, and the next one is supposed to be a couple hundred.

    I'm not super familiar with the process, what essentially happens in phase III?
    Phase IIB is next, not III. IIB they're going to try and improve the product even more.

    Phase III I belive the product is near finalized, and they just have to test it out on a large scale(300+ patients)

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  • FearTheLoss
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    Originally posted by rdawg
    In fact, maybe someone can clarify this.

    Did they show ANY pictures from the actual IIA trials? or were they all from spencer's side trial?

    cause there's about what, 50 patients on this stuff right now?
    yeah 50 on this last one, and the next one is supposed to be a couple hundred.

    I'm not super familiar with the process, what essentially happens in phase III?

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  • rdawg
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    In fact, maybe someone can clarify this.

    Did they show ANY pictures from the actual IIA trials? or were they all from spencer's side trial?

    cause there's about what, 50 patients on this stuff right now?

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  • rdawg
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    Originally posted by FearTheLoss
    anyone know when Histogen's next update will come out?
    they'll be releasing final IIA results probably within a month or two.

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  • FearTheLoss
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    and people need to stop being so negative..histogen is coming through! They have pretty much proven that the product works to maintain, strengthen hair and regrow some! now its time in the next phase to just make it work a little better!

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  • FearTheLoss
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    anyone know when Histogen's next update will come out?

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  • garethbale
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    Originally posted by Kiwi
    Dude its already been an age for us oldies. For me over 4 years and Histogen have been doing this for longer then that.

    It'll happen.

    And I suspect a side effect will be that it saves existing hairs.
    Kiwi, there was an identical post on another forum to your opening one on this thread (ie about the 50 injections costing $2000 and the response rates etc), so hopefully there is weight to this.

    I am still relatively young (28) but my hair loss will reach its 10th 'anniversary' at the end of this year. I hope some day I can end it but I guess i'm pretty used to it.

    If they can improve results and get clinics/treatment centres etc established I hope this can hit the market soon

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  • Kiwi
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    Originally posted by garethbale
    I'm not entirely sure of the implications of histogen on existing hair (ie whether it can retain it or not) and although the lighting in their photos wasn't very consistent, there is clear and visible regrowth at the temple areas in a number of the photos, the black person in particular. If it can be improved and can retain as well as regrow, its a massive step forward. That combined with a skilful FUE/HST could potentially produce an amazing result.

    If the concept can be improved, I just hope we see this in the next couple of years. My fear is that this could take an age to arrive, as seems to be the case with new treatments.
    Dude its already been an age for us oldies. For me over 4 years and Histogen have been doing this for longer then that.

    It'll happen.

    And I suspect a side effect will be that it saves existing hairs.

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