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  • StinkySmurf
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 124

    Originally posted by neversaynever
    why he thinks cultured DP cells will fail and alot more stuff.
    Did he give any opinion whatsoever on cultured DP cells?

    Thanks!

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    • drnigams
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 551

      This is what i can offer him as on today,1)what is my hair activation and multiplication procedure2)What is my clinical experience regarding hair regrowth till now,3)The latest pics on my website of HM 4)Details about me ,my team and my lab.5) compare with aderans,histogen,dr.gho,acell.6) availability of successful patients to meet in person or on skype.7)invitation to spencer to visit my clinic and lab.8)Legalities of HM with my FDA licence .
      These are the requirenments ,i don't have as on today,but should be there in the near future in coming months,there is nothing to hide.
      1)scientific publication in a peer reveived journal2)well documented case studies on my website
      This is it.Let spencer decide, whether to have first phase of discussion on HM these points now and than followed up with further discussion on HM 8 monthe down the line around ISHRS oct. conference.OR have a discussion after oct.2013.

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      • 534623
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 1854

        Originally posted by StinkySmurf

        One guy on another forum pointed out Wesley Sneijder was a big deal, and how I was probably just being a narrow minded American for not seeing it so I actually looked up his contract and saw that he signed with Inter in 2010 for 6 million euro a season, and thats convincing, but I want to point out that my only celebrity evidence from Gho as an American is a 6 million euro contract with Inter. I could trust you guys that you've seen the difference in Sneijder's hair cut this year, but I've seen some people convinced of some pretty crazy stuff on this forum so thats not much to go on.

        And I just realized today it wasn't even Wesley Sneijder's picture I saw on the Hasci site back then. It was a totally different footballer named Dean Saunders, and Dean Saunders was not nearly as big as Wesley Sneijder so we didn't have all that much celebrity info to go on with Gho two years ago.

        My point is ...
        My point is, that Mr. Dean Saunders is a great footballer - and in this video, for instance, you can see him as a super skilled soccer player ...



        And finally, let me guess - Mr. Wesley Sneijder is, in fact, an American cosmetic surgeon, who found out (after decades of hard-core research), that scarless FUE is possible.

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        • StinkySmurf
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 124

          No Call

          Originally posted by 534623
          And finally, let me guess - Mr. Wesley Sneijder is, in fact, an American cosmetic surgeon, who found out (after decades of hard-core research), that scarless FUE is possible.
          It's possible, but I haven't heard him say that, and he seeks FDA approval for his procedure so that seems unlikely. I try not to call things until I'm certain because I don't see any point in being wrong later. I find it more interesting to watch a story develop, and the only call that matters anyway is the one you make when you choose surgery.

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          • One
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 132

            Dr Nigam you said that in January 2013 you would have published some scientific tests on your technique of doubling. Is it true or no?

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            • neversaynever
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 640

              Originally posted by StinkySmurf
              Did he give any opinion whatsoever on cultured DP cells?

              Thanks!
              He just said DP cells will give inconsistent results and the new hairs arent lasting. I kept asking questions but he wouldnt give any info about anything.

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              • StinkySmurf
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 124

                Originally posted by neversaynever
                He just said DP cells will give inconsistent results and the new hairs arent lasting. I kept asking questions but he wouldnt give any info about anything.
                Cool! Thanks Dude! Thats a mixed message to me, but it's not a bad sign.

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                • 534623
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1854

                  Originally posted by neversaynever
                  He just said DP cells will give inconsistent results and the new hairs arent lasting. I kept asking questions but he wouldnt give any info about anything.
                  Yeah, that is the story you have mentioned already in this thread.
                  But what you still didn’t mention:

                  WHAT EXACTLY WERE YOUR QUESTIONS TO DR. GHO?

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                  • StinkySmurf
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 124

                    Gho Gave Same Answer To James Bond in 2005

                    Back in 2005, He gave this answer when James Bond interviewed him:

                    JB: 15) Do you believe that Intercytex and ARI are on the right track with their DP cell based HM research protocols?

                    Dr. Gho: Intercytex and ARI are working with Dermal Papilla cells. In my opinion, these cells are able to produce a hair, however, after a period, they will die and will not produce a hair again. Even Colin Jahoda revealed in his studies that human Dermal Papilla cells can not produce a hair but outer root sheath (which contain the follicular (hair) stem cells can produce a hair. However, I think that they do the studies with a combination of both dermal papilla cells and follicular (hair) stem cells and to avoid interference of the current known patents such as ours and/or other research groups, they say that they only use dermal papilla cells.

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                    • 534623
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1854

                      Originally posted by StinkySmurf
                      JB: 15) Do you believe that Intercytex and ARI are on the right track with their DP cell based HM research protocols?

                      Dr. Gho: ... I think that they do the studies with a combination of both dermal papilla cells [aka mesenchymal cells] and follicular (hair) stem cells [aka epithelial cells] and to avoid interference of the current known patents ...
                      Yeah, and Dr. Gho was right …

                      Video: http://youtu.be/2oQYjppOPJM (03:40)

                      They simply call them ("to avoid interference of the current known patents") INDUCER and RESPONDER cells instead of "mesenchymal" and/plus "epithelial" cells - that's all.

                      Anyway - and? What is Dr. Nigam saying what Aderans is doing? Eh?
                      Can somebody please QUOTE what he is saying what others like Aderans do?
                      Attached Files

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                      • neversaynever
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 640

                        Nigam claims to be using ALL the cells in his HM. Also, I dont understand the use of his activation step. Feels like hes just doing it for the sake of it.

                        Seems he has stumbled upon some results by fluke, of the back of other peoples research. Fair play if thats true.

                        I dont know what to think. He doesnt seem like a scientist to me.

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                        • neversaynever
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 640

                          Originally posted by drnigams
                          This is what i can offer him as on today,1)what is my hair activation and multiplication procedure2)What is my clinical experience regarding hair regrowth till now,3)The latest pics on my website of HM 4)Details about me ,my team and my lab.5) compare with aderans,histogen,dr.gho,acell.6) availability of successful patients to meet in person or on skype.7)invitation to spencer to visit my clinic and lab.8)Legalities of HM with my FDA licence .
                          These are the requirenments ,i don't have as on today,but should be there in the near future in coming months,there is nothing to hide.
                          1)scientific publication in a peer reveived journal2)well documented case studies on my website
                          This is it.Let spencer decide, whether to have first phase of discussion on HM these points now and than followed up with further discussion on HM 8 monthe down the line around ISHRS oct. conference.OR have a discussion after oct.2013.
                          I dont understand. Clinical experience? From what I gather, your clinic injects people and just sends them home. No evidence, no photos, no check ups. Am I wrong? And you cant show those pictures to spencer, none of those pictures look good Dr Nigam. Work harder Dr Nigam

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                          • One
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 132

                            Dr Nigam today someone wrote this feedback about yourself:

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                            Dr Nigam clining advanced stem cell therapy for Hair is completely fraud.I paid 2 lakhs for the stem cell and do not see anything good out of the treatment after 5 months
                            Instead of pure stem cell they are mixing with the treatrment FUT and charging unnecessary for stem cell
                            Staff are of poor quality and they are more like a money making machine


                            Dr Nigam clining advanced stem cell therapy for Hair is completely fraud.I paid 2 lakhs for the stem cell and dont see anything good out of the treatment afte

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                            What do you say about it?

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                            • didi
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1360

                              Originally posted by One
                              Dr Nigam today someone wrote this feedback about yourself:

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                              Dr Nigam clining advanced stem cell therapy for Hair is completely fraud.I paid 2 lakhs for the stem cell and do not see anything good out of the treatment after 5 months
                              Instead of pure stem cell they are mixing with the treatrment FUT and charging unnecessary for stem cell
                              Staff are of poor quality and they are more like a money making machine


                              Dr Nigam clining advanced stem cell therapy for Hair is completely fraud.I paid 2 lakhs for the stem cell and dont see anything good out of the treatment afte




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                              What do you say about it?



                              Simple..dr nigam my balls is fraudster

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                              • bananana
                                Inactive
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 524

                                Originally posted by didi
                                Simple..dr nigam my balls is fraudster
                                Not defending, but that guy might fall into "non working/poor results" group.
                                There are those with any procedure on earth.

                                I mean if dr. Nigam was a complete fraud - there would be THOUSANDS of those reports all over the net.

                                Easy with the convictions.

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