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  • neversaynever
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 640

    Originally posted by hellouser
    If he did, then he got an ignorant photographer that either wasnt brought up to speed over what to do or just didnt care or didnt bother to get the idea of what the purpose is of *accurate* before and after photographs for hair transplants. I wouldnt be surprised if the photographer just thought to himself 'Yeah I need clear photos of someones head, thats all' without looking at the previous photographs to get an idea of what to expect. I mean, suppose the first photo is really poor taken by an amateur and the second is done by a pro, obviously its going to be more telling. But what about the opposite, if the first photo is GREAT and the after photo isn't up to par and potentially misleading? Is that reason enough to completely ignore the doctor and future news from them?

    You need to take the photographs from all the doctors with at least a small grain of salt, EVEN IF done 100% accurately because hairstyles and layering of hair will give you a different impression unless of course... some dumbass went through the procedure and kept his head shaved (I would never do that).
    I believe, after checking another forum, that the photos are by a photographer...

    Some dumbasses look better with a tight buzz cut. I dont see whats so dumb about that.

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    • didi
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1360

      Dr Nigam hired professional photographer a month back, its reasonable to expect pro images

      If he can spend half a mil $$ for german build microscope then he can invest $5000 in studio, its sad that amateurs such as iron man and gc can take better pix then pro photographer

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4419

        Originally posted by didi
        Dr Nigam hired professional photographer a month back, its reasonable to expect pro images

        If he can spend half a mil $$ for german build microscope then he can invest $5000 in studio, its sad that amateurs such as iron man and gc can take better pix then pro photographer
        If Dr. Nigam wants, he can hire me to take care of consistent photographs.

        Pretty sad that these pseudo professional photographers are being hired for photographs that are so crucial to us the consumers.

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        • One
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 132

          Originally posted by hellouser
          If Dr. Nigam wants, he can hire me to take care of consistent photographs.

          Pretty sad that these pseudo professional photographers are being hired for photographs that are so crucial to us the consumers.

          Dr. Nigam do you can take a more professional photographer, at least for the first cases?

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          • neversaynever
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 640

            Photo taking skill aside, the patient needs to have the donor shaved in order to judge this. Wont be possible with the current case we are looking at.

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            • drnigams
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 551

              This patient will be going back to the home town on 2nd and will return in February. Few more pics of Day 3 donor and recipient with black circled marks for little better review. I understand we will have to start the new case followup from 2nd January. Will try with better pics , angles,lighting etc. Personally I do not get time to do this work its the photographer and the web-developer who do this ,I made them read the forum today, We will receive our macro lens on 9th January. But personally with video microscope I'm seeing good growth both on donor and recipient.

              I appreciate yours and others feedback. I hope in next fifteen days with followup on 2-3 patients I should be able to provide you the macro pics with tattoo mark with same angle, same lighting and same area,till that time you can suggest any more improvement.

              Happy New Year to you and other forum members ,lets hope we all reach a big breakthrough in hair multiplication in 2013 and I'm able to welcome you all to a trip to Mumbai.









              Red Circle = Sprouting of bisected follicles from recipient FUE hair doubling implantation

              Blue Circle = Bisected Follicles not seen properly

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              • One
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 132

                Thank you for your commitment Dr Nigam, I'm on your side, we want only 2-3 cases with 100% proofs.

                How much is the estimate of the hair growth in the donor and the recipient?

                Happy new year.

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                • neversaynever
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 640

                  Dr nigam, thank you for the effort. I dont mean to be rude but the photos are very poor quality...

                  I am able to achieve better quality myself at home with a very cheap camera. With a good camera you should be able to achieve far better.

                  Remember we need clarity for the following reasons:

                  - So we can see regeneration of 2 and 3 hair follicles
                  - so we can count hairs easily
                  - so we can match the hairs from each photo

                  Remember also that

                  - patients in photos need to have short hair
                  - you can take many photos and choose the best match
                  - you can include tatoo or use a natural birth mark

                  IF those criterea are not met, the evidence is of no use.

                  Angles and lighting are important, but not as important as clarity. The lighting just has to be good enough so we can see hairs clearly.

                  I will be in mumbai in febuary, i really hope we can see better evidence before then.

                  Thank you again for the efforts.

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                  • didi
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1360

                    i dont know whats point posting such a bad quality pictures, i can take better pix with my 4 year old phone and pro photographer uses dslr...

                    can you hire new set of developers and photographers,

                    seriously dr nigam, compare your photos to iron mans..dont post anythin till you reach that level or better..NO USE

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                    • Artista
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2070

                      Neversaynever has made some great points just now.
                      Dr Nigam, for anyone outside of your country to FEEL confident that they are making a wise and SAFE decision by investing on not only your service as being viable but also on airfare, accommodations,time-frames etc you do NEED to provide exacting photographs and data to back it all up.
                      Your recent history with photographic 'evidence' has damaged your reputation somewhat. That is not to say that you are fraudulent but you will now have to go that 'extra mile' to prove yourself here if you truly do want your technology to be proven and accepted by this community. I believe that you do based upon your ongoing and numerous comments thus far.

                      Ill say again-- the photographic proof must be EXACTING.

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                      • One
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 132

                        Dr Nigam extra, if I can advise you to redo your website, because it is too full and messy the home page, and graphically looks like a blog of a teenager.

                        Here are some examples:





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                        • neversaynever
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 640

                          Dr Nigam,

                          Please watch this video...




                          You will see how they are counting hairs. Even in a poor quality compressed youtube video you can see the hairs clearly....

                          This is how to collect evidence. Even without their technology for taking photos, you can collect good evidence, if approached in a logical way.

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                          • 534623
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1854

                            Originally posted by neversaynever
                            Dr Nigam,

                            Please watch this video...




                            You will see how they are counting hairs.
                            Yeah, but the guy has a problem too - seems he can't count:

                            On one hand, he says "we implanted 30 grafts in this area". On the other hand, how many grafts implanted they indeed?
                            Right - 15 - and also counted and labelled by the software in the other pics. They implanted 15 grafts and not 30 as claimed. Am I right?

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                            • clandestine
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 2002

                              Dr. Nigram; seriously watch this video /thread.

                              We are sharing the preliminary results from our initial clinical trial focused on graft survival. While the scarless approach to harvesting has been the focus of much attention, this alternative method also provides the equally-important benefit of potentially increased transplanted hair follicle growth. By providing a direct


                              This is how you document things.

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                              • drnigams
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 551

                                Thanx for the suggestions from all the members.

                                Will try to post clear pics with same angle,same light,and with macro lense.This time i have to be present myself at the time of taking pics.
                                I will be doing 100 FU by hairdoubling on my staff,for the forum members. And the HM pics of followup patients.
                                Since i will be traveling to dubai and jeddah for consultations ,
                                I will post pics after i return to mumbai on 9th jan.

                                Originally posted by clandestine
                                Dr. Nigram; seriously watch this video /thread.

                                We are sharing the preliminary results from our initial clinical trial focused on graft survival. While the scarless approach to harvesting has been the focus of much attention, this alternative method also provides the equally-important benefit of potentially increased transplanted hair follicle growth. By providing a direct


                                This is how you document things.

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