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  • drnigams
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 551

    I pity you ,jjj, research paper on my site you are mentioning bear the names of the original researchers..not mine.
    Google dr bernstein medical centre website and find 50 plus research papers of dr bernstien and many others on his site...I will post the best of research papers on my site which are related to my work...with the names of original research scientists...

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    • 534623
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 1854

      Originally posted by drnigams
      I pity you ,jjj, research paper on my site you are mentioning bear the names of the original researchers..not mine.
      I mentioned this paper - and what you say is not true!



      Again, this page doesn't bear the names of the original researchers - that's exactly the reason why I'm asking. Furthermore, where are the in the paper mentioned REFERENCES (1,2,3 etc)?

      Originally posted by drnigams
      Google dr bernstein medical centre website and find 50 plus research papers of dr bernstien and many others on his site...I will post the best of research papers on my site which are related to my work...with the names of original research scientists...
      This is correct ...

      Bernstein Medical offers expert hair restoration in New York, providing advanced treatments for men and women experiencing hair loss and thinning concerns.


      ... but guys like Dr. Bernstein can do this, because he is either the main and/or co-author of all these papers.

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      • drnigams
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 551

        534623,
        Kindly go to resources section and click to hair restoration papers at drbernstienmedicalcentre.com. You will find many pages of research publications of last 10yrs ,mostly of research scientist other than dr bernstien.We all have a right to learn from each others work and improve on the research further in our own ways,if the research work is under public domain.
        Under hairdoubling section i have quoted two research papers of Emirali,Ergin,Melike..and Alfredo,Gilio,Toscani...on hair bisection. Similarly i have referred few more papers and quoted on my website. Even dr gho in his published study have quoted research papers of KIM CHOI AND REYNOLDS...and he has actually taken their work forward with longitudnal bisection.
        There are few people on the forum who are obsessed with skepticism,you have only showed the link of a page of my website and have not shown the article from the first page which mentions all the names of the publishers ,we have not altered anything on the article.
        Kindly check and let me know if you need any correction on case study of hair doubling pics which i have posted...everyone starts jumping into one HM pic which i posted out of excitement on seeing the result.
        I will have the last laugh when neversay will meet this person mr verma in feb. As i had a last laugh when OBI the forum member visited my clinic in dec.when a lot of skeptics were proved wrong on lot of their comments.
        All such comments waste your and my time which we could have used more constructively.
        Did i charge my fees to OBI except my solution cost,will i charge my fees to neversay...than why few skeptics blame me for luring members to make money?

        Originally posted by 534623
        I mentioned this paper - and what you say is not true!

        http://www.drniga..ms.net/Follicular.html

        Again, this page doesn't bear the names of the original researchers - that's exactly the reason why I'm asking. Furthermore, where are the in the paper mentioned REFERENCES (1,2,3 etc)?



        This is correct ...

        Bernstein Medical offers expert hair restoration in New York, providing advanced treatments for men and women experiencing hair loss and thinning concerns.


        ... but guys like Dr. Bernstein can do this, because he is either the main and/or co-author of all these papers.

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        • 534623
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 1854

          Originally posted by drnigams
          534623,
          Kindly go to resources section and click to hair restoration papers at drbernstienmedicalcentre.com. You will find many pages of research publications of last 10yrs ,mostly of research scientist other than dr bernstien.We all have a right to learn from each others work ...
          Yeah ...

          Explore our listing of important articles, journals, and end notes to learn about the topics and authors contributing to the field of hair restoration.


          ... and?

          Dr. Bernstein just mention the paper's TITLE, AUTHORS and WHERE (journal, textbook etc) can I find the FULL TEXT - but he doesn't publish the FULL TEXT on his website of OTHER researchers papers. But just because someone makes a long list of publications of other researchers publications on his website - it doesn't mean this person is fully aware about the CONTENT of all these publications - nor whether or not he is fully aware what this paper is all about in detail.

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          • didi
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1360

            give dr nigam a chance, im sure he is using dr lauster technology and thats a good thing, of course he will prbbly deny this but thats ok, as long as he keeps going in the right direction its fine


            he wouldnt be risking his reputation and going this far if he has nothing

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            • didi
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 1360

              neversaynever

              are you going to get free HM treatment whn you visit in feb?

              you are someone we can trust and community would thank you for that,

              but if you think its too risky then dont do it, but inspect his patients and facilities

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              • drnigams
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 551

                534623,
                My approach to develop HM, hair doubling with stem cells, graft survival, aesthetic and density improvement on HT is very simple. I am little into research development but more into applied research. I dont want to become bankrupt intercytix HM company who had to sell itself to Aderans. Please understand lot of research scientist do not have hair transplant clinics and patients. My job is to buy or pick up from public domain on research work related to my field, if required communicate with these research scientists, test their research work and if it shows results, apply on my patients for what they have come to me. For eg., Dr.Roland Lauster and his team knows little about my hair multiplication and I know little about his development of bio-engineered hair follicle in-vitro. Now what is the harm if we both can agree to work together where I have easier regulations in India, chain of hair multiplication clinics and expanding across India and worldwide and since they are bio-technologists and their experience in the field of tissue engineering is much higher than me and their lab in which I am interested is much highly equipped and much superior than my lab.
                To reach a cure for baldness, different experts are required for different roles. Its a team work. How can any of us with an average 14 hrs. of daily work can give justice to different steps of improvement in hair transplant, HM or any other cure for baldness.
                So, please as a team like neversaynever, ironman, moopookoo, gc3, smurf, spencer, blake, obi, winston, didi, bill, drwashniek, dr zering give positive suggestions to improve HT, HM, Hiar Doubling so that we can reach cure for baldness.
                This is not facebook. If you follow the above approach, I can get many experts to participate with us in this forum. Spencer also mentioned the same on one of his radio show that when the experts come on this forum, sceptics sway them away and on the other hand the same people want discussion and cure for baldness. Moopookoo has suggested me to ask Dr.Lauster's team to start participating in the forum. I'll definitely try to convince them. Lot of hair transplant doctors across the globe have been mailing me to know more about our HM techniques and want to partner with us. I can get many of them in the forum provided we have a decent, focused discussion towards cure of baldness. I spent one whole day for 20 plus pictures of the case studies for you'll although it also needs improvement, I am not sure whether you've seen that on 45th or 46th page.









                Originally posted by 534623
                Yeah ...

                Explore our listing of important articles, journals, and end notes to learn about the topics and authors contributing to the field of hair restoration.


                ... and?

                Dr. Bernstein just mention the paper's TITLE, AUTHORS and WHERE (journal, textbook etc) can I find the FULL TEXT - but he doesn't publish the FULL TEXT on his website of OTHER researchers papers. But just because someone makes a long list of publications of other researchers publications on his website - it doesn't mean this person is fully aware about the CONTENT of all these publications - nor whether or not he is fully aware what this paper is all about in detail.

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                • 534623
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1854

                  Originally posted by didi
                  neversaynever

                  are you going to get free HM treatment whn you visit in feb?

                  but if you think its too risky then dont do it, but inspect his patients and facilities
                  Let me look ...
                  Originally posted by drnigams
                  [...]
                  As on today my major focus is to directly inject progenitor stemcells into dormanting follicles,since there exists atleast a follicular structure.I am waiting to receive my order from USA of wnt protien,HEDGEHOG protien and few other growth factors.If DHT was the prime reason for hairloss ,replenishing the hair follicle receptors with anti DHT i.e finisteride would have cured baldness by now.
                  So NO! Playing around with Wnt proteins and sonic-hedgehog (shh) proteins - is not risky at all!


                  I think neversaynever is the proper candidate for such experiments.
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                  • drnigams
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 551

                    Histogen serum complex, wherein they use wnt protiens have clinical trial (first phase of safety)approved by FDA 5 yrears back .WNT protiens will be used not before next six months in my HM,initial supply of wnt when i recieve will be to see it's efficacy in the samples in the lab,in the mean time we will speak to histogen on it's safety ,convince ourself,look into legalities before we actually start using on our patients with their consent as apart of medical procedure with autologous stemcells not as allogenic stemcell drug of HSC.

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                    • youngsufferer
                      Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 42

                      Either show us undeniable results or convince Lauster to publicly promote you and your methods. After that I think you'll have 90% of us on board with you. Nothing else really needs to be said.

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                      • neversaynever
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 640

                        Originally posted by didi
                        neversaynever

                        are you going to get free HM treatment whn you visit in feb?

                        you are someone we can trust and community would thank you for that,

                        but if you think its too risky then dont do it, but inspect his patients and facilities
                        Im happy to visit, but would not have any procedures done because of safety and doubts (at the moment)

                        HM - proof that it works and safety concerns
                        Doubling - Proof that it works, because if it doesnt it will leave scars.

                        Like ironman just pointed out, messing with wnt pathways and other proteins can be very unsafe in the wrong hands. I dont think Dr nigam is here to put people at risk and dish out lies, but I have the same attitude towards aderans and histogen in terms of safety and proof.

                        The only thing in their favour is if their product doesnt work, they cant sell it....

                        This is a strange and frustrating situation!

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                        • neversaynever
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 640

                          Originally posted by drnigams
                          Histogen serum complex, wherein they use wnt protiens have clinical trial (first phase of safety)approved by FDA 5 yrears back .WNT protiens will be used not before next six months in my HM,initial supply of wnt when i recieve will be to see it's efficacy in the samples in the lab,in the mean time we will speak to histogen on it's safety ,convince ourself,look into legalities before we actually start using on our patients with their consent as apart of medical procedure with autologous stemcells not as allogenic stemcell drug of HSC.
                          Histogens trial puts safety as the most important factor, as such they are conducting their trials to the rules of the FDA to demonstrate safety and efficacy. That doesnt mean that anyone can use wnts, bmps etc etc with no safety risks. But its good to know you will not be using wnts anytime soon.

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                          • neversaynever
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 640

                            Originally posted by drnigams
                            534623,
                            My approach to develop HM, hair doubling with stem cells, graft survival, aesthetic and density improvement on HT is very simple. I am little into research development but more into applied research. I dont want to become bankrupt intercytix HM company who had to sell itself to Aderans. Please understand lot of research scientist do not have hair transplant clinics and patients. My job is to buy or pick up from public domain on research work related to my field, if required communicate with these research scientists, test their research work and if it shows results, apply on my patients for what they have come to me. For eg., Dr.Roland Lauster and his team knows little about my hair multiplication and I know little about his development of bio-engineered hair follicle in-vitro. Now what is the harm if we both can agree to work together where I have easier regulations in India, chain of hair multiplication clinics and expanding across India and worldwide and since they are bio-technologists and their experience in the field of tissue engineering is much higher than me and their lab in which I am interested is much highly equipped and much superior than my lab.
                            To reach a cure for baldness, different experts are required for different roles. Its a team work. How can any of us with an average 14 hrs. of daily work can give justice to different steps of improvement in hair transplant, HM or any other cure for baldness.
                            So, please as a team like neversaynever, ironman, moopookoo, gc3, smurf, spencer, blake, obi, winston, didi, bill, drwashniek, dr zering give positive suggestions to improve HT, HM, Hiar Doubling so that we can reach cure for baldness.
                            This is not facebook. If you follow the above approach, I can get many experts to participate with us in this forum. Spencer also mentioned the same on one of his radio show that when the experts come on this forum, sceptics sway them away and on the other hand the same people want discussion and cure for baldness. Moopookoo has suggested me to ask Dr.Lauster's team to start participating in the forum. I'll definitely try to convince them. Lot of hair transplant doctors across the globe have been mailing me to know more about our HM techniques and want to partner with us. I can get many of them in the forum provided we have a decent, focused discussion towards cure of baldness. I spent one whole day for 20 plus pictures of the case studies for you'll although it also needs improvement, I am not sure whether you've seen that on 45th or 46th page.
                            Thats a good post, thanks for the info. I think many people think that you are the head scientist in the lab, but it adds more clarity to know that you focus on the applied research and trials.

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                            • UK Boy
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 240

                              I honestly don't know what to think about this whole Dr. Nigams thing but I do have to say I'm extremely impressed by his persistance to convince us all of his treatment. The amount of time he spends on the forum is admirable and it's a shame we don't get even 1% as much interaction from any other doctor working on any other treatment i.e Gho, Ziering, Washenik, Lauster etc. Although I give credit to Dr. Ziering who did used to try and visit the forum and who does regularly update through Spencer.

                              I also think that Dr. Nigams talks more sense than any other doctor we've encountered in that he states that in order to beat hairloss, those in the industry have to work TOGETHER. It feels like we on the forum are constantly saying this but those in hairloss research never want to listen. If doctor Nigams really is going to do what he says he is going to do then he's the best person to come along in a long time. Unfortunately there is the persistant nag that what he is suggesting seems too good to be true and he is just a complete fraudster. I think I tend to agree with what others are saying that if he can get the likes of someone lilke Lauster to come forward and confirm what he's been saying then I will have a lot more belief in him.

                              This really seems like something that Spencer should be getting involved in though, surely this is exactly what he should be doing in his role as 'Consumer Advocate'. Has he stated on the show that he plans to talk to Dr. Nigams or to confirm his claims? Surely with his contacts Spencer could find out whether or not Dr. Nigams really has been liasing with all these different people in the industry. We know he has contact with Dr. Ziering and Gail Naughton so surely he can find out if Histogen has been speaking with him as he states.

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                              • drnigams
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 551

                                Neversay,
                                At present i am using only serum free growth factors which are absolutely safe as they are being used in normal wound healing ,these growth factors have been approved for the first stemcell therapeutic approval by FDA'S worldwide of the use of bone marrow stem cells.
                                All the growth factors are imported from US and are FDA USA approved,OBI had seen them and uploaded the pics on the other forum.
                                As i replied 1 month back that we will follow safety results of histogen serum complex ,with dose , type of wnt and the stand of FDA on the same.But before that we would like to see the difference it makes in the hair multiplication and differentiation of stemcells in the lab.
                                Neversay once a compound or molecule or protein is cleared for safety with osage ,indications,contraindications for use on humans for a particular therapeutic and or research purpose,it is the first company who has to do all the hard work,some molecules can be patented and others not,the subsequent companies automatically gets clearance much earlier or the same therapeutic usage,like you do not have to keep repeating the clinical trial of safety for every new company who launches a paracetamol molecule for pain management. It is the manufacturing pharma company who has to get the approval of use of wnt protiens for hair follicle neogenesis in vitro or vivo,than they can sell it to any doctor or instituition.
                                VISMODEGIB a drug which reduces tumourogenic potential of wnt protien got approval from US FDA on jan 2012.Manufactured by GENETICA pharma for the therapeutic use to treat basal cell carcinoma.

                                Originally posted by neversaynever
                                Histogens trial puts safety as the most important factor, as such they are conducting their trials to the rules of the FDA to demonstrate safety and efficacy. That doesnt mean that anyone can use wnts, bmps etc etc with no safety risks. But its good to know you will not be using wnts anytime soon.

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