New Stemcell Treatment Photos... wow?

[534623]

Just go to drbernstienmedicalcentre.com, click to Bernstein publication
look for 3 step FUE technique paper, see the histopathalogical slide of
hair follicle transection due to 2 step FUE technique. This will prove
you that Dr. Gho's technique is nothing new to what Dr. Bernstein had
shown in his publication long time back as partial or transacted FUE.

Actually, no.
This just proves that until today you had no clue how traditional "FUE" works at all.

By the way - if everything is so cool and easy,
why doesn't Dr. Bernstein offer "hair doubling" procedures ?

[StinkySmurf]

A good idea from Dr Bernstien has come in today to make a FUE extraction a three steps process. we will use 0.6mm punch (internal diameter) for superficial entry in to folicular unit. with the retraction of skin outwards, sufficient space is created for larger diameter punch to go deep upto subcutaneous fat with the blunt punch.

Myself and most of the surgeons tweeze the follicle out even in normal FUE and from tomorrow I will be using Dr. Bernstein 3 step FUE technique of scoring sharp dissection, blunt dissection and tweezing out FU.

Just go to drbernstienmedicalcentre.com, click to Bernstein publication look for 3 step FUE technique paper, see the histopathological slide of hair follicle transection due to 2 step FUE technique. This will prove you that Dr. Gho's technique is nothing new to what Dr. Bernstein had shown in his publication long time back as partial or transacted FUE.

Yes, I intended to mention Dr. Bernstein's 3 step paper, but I'm busy at work today and ran out of time and besides my post was already a bit of a run on so...

I don't want to step on toes and say Dr. Bernstein and Dr. Cole are doing the same thing and calling it something different, my layman's knowledge is not enough to understand what they're saying well enough to claim that, but they do both mention scoring, and so I thought Dr. Bernstein's 3 step and Dr. Cole's isolation technique might be similar.

[StinkySmurf]

Dr. Nigam,

I sent my email to dr.rahul1970@gmail.com.

Thanks!

[clandestine]

If those pictures on the previous page are really yours, they have dramatically improved in quality.

[One]

Doctor you should publish your research here:

http://www.nature.com/srep/index.html

Nature is very important scientific and accredited journal.

[drnigams]

534623,
I have just submitted 100% hair doubling on day 5(and will submit more case studies) with in vitro hair bisection(under magnification to avoid transection with blind longitudnal technique) with injection of progenitor stem cells,
The only difference is, i have access to progenitor cells to add to my doubling.
BTW,just have a look at this statement of dr gho from his paper..'In case of partial longitudnal FUE,where follicular stem cells remain at the donor site as well as in the partial extracted follicle,a donor site capable multiple hair transplantation should become possible.'(anyway we inject progenitor stemcells in both the bisected follicles and will shortly inject potent cultured DP cells in both the bisected follicles)
I also fail to understand why not go for total hair doubling implantation on the recipient(make 8000 grafts from 4000 grafts)and revert to NW3 or 4from NW7 ,Why worry so much about donor(as HM should be available in few years to come).
Why not have great recipient today itself to flaunt and move your fingers into your hair, instead of waiting for years to extract donor every year,with poor quality hair.
Can you please explain your understanding of partial FUE and partial longitudnal bisection of FU in vivo by blind technique...to enlighten me...

QUOTE=534623;98929]Actually, no.
This just proves that until today you had no clue how traditional "FUE" works at all.

By the way - if everything is so cool and easy,
why doesn't Dr. Bernstein offer "hair doubling" procedures ?[/QUOTE]

[drnigams]

ONE ,
there are two categories for me 1) biotechnology 2) cell biology.
I will have to check with them regarding the category to which, hair doubling and hair multiplication will belong to.
I do buy research papers from nature.

Doctor you should publish your research here:

http://www.nature.com/srep/index.html

Nature is very important scientific and accredited journal.

[One]

534623,
I also fail to understand why not go for total hair doubling implantation on the recipient(make 8000 grafts from 4000 grafts)and revert to NW3 or 4from NW7 ,Why worry so much about donor(as HM should be available in few years to come).

I'm sorry Nigam,d o you have cases of donor doubling? We are interested at this technique, not the other!

[534623]

http://www.nature.com/srep/index.html

Nature is very important scientific and accredited journal.

Right, and that's the reason why Colin Jahoda published the following in 2003 (concerning the Replicel approach):
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http://www.nature.com/jid/journal/v121/n6/full/5602054a.html

"In skin undergoing androgenetic alopecia, there is the possibility
that the balance of migration is altered and incontinence of dermal sheath cells to the skin dermis leads to reduction in size of the dermal papilla,
and in turn to miniaturization of the follicle structure. If this leakage is
the result of signals from a dermal environment unique to this region of skin,
then addition of cells by recruitment might only be postponing the inevitable."
*************************

So, today, could you see any "rejuvenated vellus hairs" by Replicel, Aderans or Histogen?
Sorry, I couldn't see any ...
... because even if cell recruitment happened, any benefit would be just short-lived.

"AGA is not a stem cell problem!" - according to Prof. R. Paus and Dr. G. Cotsaelis.

[didi]

534623

'I also fail to understand why not go for total hair doubling implantation on the recipient(make 8000 grafts from 4000 grafts)and revert to NW3 or 4from NW7 ,Why worry so much about donor(as HM should be available in few years to come).
Why not have great recipient today itself to flaunt and move your fingers into your hair, instead of waiting for years to extract donor every year,with poor quality hair.
Can you please explain your understanding of partial FUE and partial longitudnal bisection of FU in vivo by blind technique...to enlighten me...'

Thats a downside of ghos hst, you can only do small sessions if you want regeneration

how can we be so sure HM will be avail in next few years,


'with poor quality hair', i didnt understand this part,

[neversaynever]

Right, and that's the reason why Colin Jahoda published the following in 2003 (concerning the Replicel approach):
*************************

http://www.nature.com/jid/journal/v121/n6/full/5602054a.html

"In skin undergoing androgenetic alopecia, there is the possibility
that the balance of migration is altered and incontinence of dermal sheath cells to the skin dermis leads to reduction in size of the dermal papilla,
and in turn to miniaturization of the follicle structure. If this leakage is
the result of signals from a dermal environment unique to this region of skin,
then addition of cells by recruitment might only be postponing the inevitable."
*************************

So, today, could you see any "rejuvenated vellus hairs" by Replicel, Aderans or Histogen?
Sorry, I couldn't see any ...
... because even if cell recruitment happened, any benefit would be just short-lived.

"AGA is not a stem cell problem!" - according to Prof. R. Paus and Dr. G. Cotsaelis.

"signals from a dermal environment" - i think this might be true. But no evidence yet to back it.

"addition of cells by recruitment might only be postponing the inevitable"

"AGA is not a stem cell problem!" - but tricking those stem cells into growing hair might become the next generation of treatments.

But as with everything in this industry, theres no proof..of anything.

As for Nigams doubling technique, I'm very curious. Ive been thinking for a long time why someone doesnt experiment with this in vitro.

Nigam suggested 4000 grafts from donor? Dr nigam, first prove you can do 100 grafts! the damage caused by extracting 4000 grafts might reduce donor regrowth, and then the patient has a problem!

[neversaynever]

Dr Nigam, why when you do the doubling technique, do you inject progenitor cells? Why not just use the stem cells already in the follicle, convert them to progenitor cells, and reinplant?

[534623]

But as with everything in this industry, theres no proof..of anything.

How do YOU know that "theres no proof..of anything" ?

Contrary to you, I posted not just 1 proof - I posted multiple LIVING proofs:

Aderans, Histogen, Replicel - they have definitely proven with all their photos and presentations so far, that "injecting stuff" is just "postponing the inevitable" - IF at all; and even "postponing something for an uncertain time", would be just the best-case scenario (under ideal conditions, as with Fin/Minox or crap whatever), not THE solution!

[neversaynever]

How do YOU know that "theres no proof..of anything" ?

Contrary to you, I posted not just 1 proof - I posted multiple LIVING proofs:

Aderans, Histogen, Replicel - they have definitely proven with all their photos and presentations so far, that "injecting stuff" is just "postponing the inevitable" - IF at all; and even "postponing something for an uncertain time", would be just the best-case scenario (under ideal conditions, as with Fin/Minox or crap whatever), not THE solution!

I agree. Nothing will give THE solution. Im hoping for something that can replace minox and maybe fin. Its obvious aderans, replicel, histogen dont have THE solution.

And yes, theres no proof of anything. I think we are missing at least one big factor in the balding process, possibly from the dermis. And so far, the guys in whites coats havent found that missing link, so theres no proof.

I think people should stop thinking about THE solution, and just be open to a next gen treatment that will be far better than minox (i hope)

[StinkySmurf]

How do YOU know that "theres no proof..of anything" ?

Contrary to you, I posted not just 1 proof - I posted multiple LIVING proofs:

Aderans, Histogen, Replicel - they have definitely proven with all their photos and presentations so far, that "injecting stuff" is just "postponing the inevitable" - IF at all; and even "postponing something for an uncertain time", would be just the best-case scenario (under ideal conditions, as with Fin/Minox or crap whatever), not THE solution!

We will either have an announcement of Phase 3 this year or we won't. It's possible the effects are permanent, and it's possible the effects are only temporary. We don't know that for certain either way.

What we do know is they won't enter phase 3 with a product they can't sell.