New Stemcell Treatment Photos... wow?

[One]

Not defending, but that guy might fall into "non working/poor results" group.
There are those with any procedure on earth.

I mean if dr. Nigam was a complete fraud - there would be THOUSANDS of those reports all over the net.

Easy with the convictions.

It is true, however Nigam said clearly that him would publish scientific evidence on January 2013. At this point I am very disappointed if he does not, and I think he is really a crook.

[didi]

why would there be 1000s of complaints??

you really beleive dr nigam n his numbers...he deliberetly lied on many occasions, i dnt beleive a word he says..

fool me once shame on u, fool me twice shame on me..

he fooled you 27 times by now ..lmao

[drnigams]

Dear ONE,My clinic has written him back to mail us ,so that we can reveiw his case and do the needful to take care of his concerns.
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[One]

Dear ONE,My clinic has written him back to mail us ,so that we can reveiw his case and do the needful to take care of his concerns.
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Dr Nigam you said that in January 2013 you would have published some scientific tests on your technique of doubling. Is it true or no?

[drnigams]

Dear One ,i said i will start working and documenting on my scientific paper . I am dubai right now,will reach mumbai on 9th .WE have finalised 3patients ,i will give the details on 10th.I started with one patient for doubling study on 1st jan ,but the pics were not good ,this patient will come back in february,we will post better pics with the next follow up.
It is true, however Nigam said clearly that him would publish scientific evidence on January 2013. At this point I am very disappointed if he does not, and I think he is really a crook.[/QUOTE]

[drnigams]

Dear neversay ,met two american hairtransplant surgeons at dubai.Discussed our hair doubling and HM ,should start our new clinic at dubai in 6months .Neversay ,patients are followed every month ,some report back while others are from different towns and are not regular with followup.You only said better photos, you know i am travelling to middle east ,I have to continue with my regular consultations,meet HT surgeons,and share each others findings and wisdom.Finalise my new clinic at dubai.
You will start having photos of Hair doubling and HM from 15thjan.Don't tell me no photos have been posted till now,yes detailing was not upto the mark
,Let me focus on my work,and have patience.

I dont understand. Clinical experience? From what I gather, your clinic injects people and just sends them home. No evidence, no photos, no check ups. Am I wrong? And you cant show those pictures to spencer, none of those pictures look good Dr Nigam. Work harder Dr Nigam

[neversaynever]

Dear neversay ,met two american hairtransplant surgeons at dubai.Discussed our hair doubling and HM ,should start our new clinic at dubai in 6months .Neversay ,patients are followed every month ,some report back while others are from different towns and are not regular with followup.You only said better photos, you know i am travelling to middle east ,I have to continue with my regular consultations,meet HT surgeons,and share each others findings and wisdom.Finalise my new clinic at dubai.
You will start having photos of Hair doubling and HM from 15thjan.Don't tell me no photos have been posted till now,yes detailing was not upto the mark
,Let me focus on my work,and have patience.

I would have patience, but if you convince me i can visit you in feb, because ill be in your city. Thats my personal reason for lacking patience

[drnigams]

Neversay,You don't question why dr gho puts his bisected FU into preservation medium for two hours ,hairactivation step has two advantages, 1)Legally it allows us to offer under many different regulations in different countries.So ,if i can improve by giving extra follicles or activating dormant follicles, where regulations will not allow me for HM,i can still offer traditional HT with better results.
2)we have seen some good results with hairactivation ,although only in 10 to 20% cases.It also helps us predict results of subsequent injections of HM ,even in cases with few growth of dormant hair follicles after activation.
A new development from 10th jan is ,we will focus on injecting stemcells mostly on villous and thinned out hair as opposed to randomly injecting all over bald area,since MPB results in fibrotic changes of the root of hair follicles after a period of time.
improvement which we will start for all our HT procedures is , arterial prp with 250ml blood(not 10ml venous blood0 will be injected on transplanted grafts,as neovascularization takes time and follicles can die or get damaged secondary to drying and loss of blood supply
Hair activation helps us to inject activated stemcells within four hours of in vitro exposure of FU.Nobody can claim as on today to have understood the complete interaction of dermal and epidermal cells to create a new follicle.All of us are trying different approaches for improvement.
You can talk theoretically, while i am supposed to get back hair on my patients scalp with proven safety as of now.I will do everything to improve on my patients results.

Nigam claims to be using ALL the cells in his HM. Also, I dont understand the use of his activation step. Feels like hes just doing it for the sake of it.

Seems he has stumbled upon some results by fluke, of the back of other peoples research. Fair play if thats true.

I dont know what to think. He doesnt seem like a scientist to me.

[One]

Dear One ,i said i will start working and documenting on my scientific paper . I am dubai right now,will reach mumbai on 9th .WE have finalised 3patients ,i will give the details on 10th.I started with one patient for doubling study on 1st jan ,but the pics were not good ,this patient will come back in february,we will post better pics with the next follow up.
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Dr Nigam, if you're an intelligent person, you must understand that all things in your site are copy and paste from other research and then 4 blurry pictures, not even there is a FUE or FUT complete.

We do not know anything about you, we read negative comments, fake photos, in short what should we think?

[drnigams]

Neversay,I am not here to sell you my HM.when you are in mumbai,we will meet, exchange thoughts and wisdom,obi had already met patients one on one with good results,if you want you can use body hair for stemcell to avoid any loss of diamonds called hairfollicles.
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I would have patience, but if you convince me i can visit you in feb, because ill be in your city. Thats my personal reason for lacking patience

[didi]

do body hairs grow as body hairs or they grow as scalp hair once on scalp?

[drnigams]

One, this is surprising,i have written more than 10 times of the content of my website , on the 3 forums but you are still talking about the content on my site,
must be thinking why am i not atleast, putting the content of my replies of the forum on my website.
Forum have limited active visitors,my local competitors are not forum visitors,i can disclose openly without too much fear.
Yes i am improving my content,if i have posted other scientists findings and research on my site ,i have not claimed it, to be mine,i have put their names,but i am practically applying the research.These are researchers who do not have clinics or patients.
If i start putting all my original thoughts and findings on my site ,it will hardly take any time for others to copy ,even before i would have perfected it or patented it ,i am saying this specially for my local competitors .
Want to read about respected dr rafal's, fue patient based in canada who got gangrene of the scalp,who has posted his pics,kindly visit hairsite.
How can i comment on my own intelligence,but yes i do one of the highest number of HT per month with 15 bedded ht clinic,I don't know how to explain you that why spend my so much time and at least 20000 $ per month on travelling different cities of the world virtually every month to meet other HT surgeons and biotechs. My clinic was personally visited by obi,the forum member , who gave a satisfactory review.Neversay is visiting me this feb.please don't let me waste my effort on answering non technical questions.
TE=One;97322]Dr Nigam, if you're an intelligent person, you must understand that all things in your site are copy and paste from other research and then 4 blurry pictures, not even there is a FUE or FUT complete.

[drnigams]

Body hair grow much longer(as against their length on the body) after transplantation into the scalp.
Since they are single hair follicles,it is not a bad option for hair line .Body hair are little curly, hence a patient who has little curly hair, body hair is not a bad option.There are 400000 body hair as against 100000 scalp hair .

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Do body hairs grow as body hairs or they grow as scalp hair once on scalp?[/QUOTE]

[neversaynever]

Neversay,You don't question why dr gho puts his bisected FU into preservation medium for two hours ,hairactivation step has two advantages, 1)Legally it allows us to offer under many different regulations in different countries.So ,if i can improve by giving extra follicles or activating dormant follicles, where regulations will not allow me for HM,i can still offer traditional HT with better results.
2)we have seen some good results with hairactivation ,although only in 10 to 20% cases.It also helps us predict results of subsequent injections of HM ,even in cases with few growth of dormant hair follicles after activation.
A new development from 10th jan is ,we will focus on injecting stemcells mostly on villous and thinned out hair as opposed to randomly injecting all over bald area,since MPB results in fibrotic changes of the root of hair follicles after a period of time.
improvement which we will start for all our HT procedures is , arterial prp with 250ml blood(not 10ml venous blood0 will be injected on transplanted grafts,as neovascularization takes time and follicles can die or get damaged secondary to drying and loss of blood supply
Hair activation helps us to inject activated stemcells within four hours of in vitro exposure of FU.Nobody can claim as on today to have understood the complete interaction of dermal and epidermal cells to create a new follicle.All of us are trying different approaches for improvement.
You can talk theoretically, while i am supposed to get back hair on my patients scalp with proven safety as of now.I will do everything to improve on my patients results.

Thank you, that is one of your better replies.

What are your thoughts on something 'blocking' cultured DP cells from communicating with the stem cells to start hair growth?

Is it possible that PGD2 could be blocking this process?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3319975/

Please refer to the link. It shows PGD2 inhibits hair growth. There are other studies that indicate PGD2 can inhibit 'cell talk'. We know somewhere lower down the ladder DHT plays a big role, which goes on to alter TGF's and BMPs in the hair follicle, and maybe finally, producing too much PGD2.

PGD2 has been a huge talking point on the forums since the study and its finding were made public. Other studies have shown the following:

Earlier studies about cell lines found that micromolar amounts of the PGD2 metabolites inhibit cellular proliferation

Perhaps this (or something similar) is the reason why cell based hair therapies can yield great results on mice, but not in a human balding scalp. The cells that you, aderans, replicel inject are recruited by the follicle but the PGD2 (or something else) that surrounds the follicle is still preventing the cross talk between the DP cells and the bulge stem cells.

Therefore, are you interested in PGd2 therapies? Do you have any knowledge you can add? Do you think a cell based treatment combined with PGD2 treatment might yield better results?

I believe PGD2 also inhibits the migration of Langerhans cells in the follicle. Maybe we could skip all the process and inject all the signals the stem cell requires to produce hair, but PGd2 blocking might be available soon.

Is it possible to monitor the movement of cultured cells in vitro with a balding hair follicle? If yes, what are your thoughts on also testing a PGD2 blocker in vitro, and then followed by the addition of cultured cells?

If, as a few studies have indicated, pgd2 and its evil son pgj2 inhibit proliferation of the stem cells, then I think it should be of great interest to you...

Bottom line is: We still dont know enough to get the cells talking again, though maybe Histogen have got us closer. A popular study has also shown that bald scalps still have the required stem cells. But perhaps the increased PGD2 in balding follicles is preventing aderans, you, repicel, histogen from achieving remarkable results?

Instead of focusing on what the signals the stem needs, maybe you should focusing on what is blocking that signal (might be easier), and then combine cell therapy with a therapy that inhibits the agent that is blocking the DP to stem cell signal.

Sorry for the amatuer questions again, I'm just a curious person, and interested in your technical thoughts.

[534623]

Body hair grow much longer(as against their length on the body) after transplantation into the scalp.
Since they are single hair follicles,it is not a bad option for hair line.

https://vimeo.com/52530963

All these guys are much longer than you in the HT business and they are doing BHT since around 10 years. So I think they know more than you ...