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  • drnigams
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 551

    I will answer your questions of the other forum tonight.
    Originally posted by neversaynever
    Why not tatoo mark certain areas so we can evaluate properly? I have a feeling you will take photos that reveal no proof at all, with different lighting, and from a distance or maybe blurry.

    Also there are a number of more challenging questions being asked which you are not answering.

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    • drnigams
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 551

      Neversay, you can visit my home page and click to.. follow up of OBI ...to view haircounts and magnified clear images. can always suggest improvements.
      I don't post too many pics on the forum,as it will seem self promotion ,which is not right as per the policy of the forum.
      This time i hope ,the follow up pics clearity is somewhere close to our friend gc and ironman followup pics.
      i will click the doubling pics every day for 5 days ,so that we can followup closely,as my sister will be going back after that and will return next month.
      QUOTE=neversaynever;96020]Why not tatoo mark certain areas so we can evaluate properly? I have a feeling you will take photos that reveal no proof at all, with different lighting, and from a distance or maybe blurry.

      Also there are a number of more challenging questions being asked which you are not answering.[/QUOTE]

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      • neversaynever
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 640

        Originally posted by drnigams
        Neversay, you can visit my home page and click to.. follow up of OBI ...to view haircounts and magnified clear images. can always suggest improvements.
        I don't post too many pics on the forum,as it will seem self promotion ,which is not right as per the policy of the forum.
        This time i hope ,the follow up pics clearity is somewhere close to our friend gc and ironman followup pics.
        i will click the doubling pics every day for 5 days ,so that we can followup closely,as my sister will be going back after that and will return next month.
        QUOTE=neversaynever;96020]Why not tatoo mark certain areas so we can evaluate properly? I have a feeling you will take photos that reveal no proof at all, with different lighting, and from a distance or maybe blurry.

        Also there are a number of more challenging questions being asked which you are not answering.
        [/QUOTE]

        Hi dr nigam. Im sorry, those micro shots are of no use. Because you are not showing before and after shots, and its impossible to say how you know which hairs are new. You need to use a tatoo marking system (a tiny dot) and take before and after photos. Unfortunately these photos do not demonstrate anything.

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        • drnigams
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 551

          OBI HM pics are BEFORE pics(20/12/2012),after pics will be available after few months .
          Regarding dr manoj's pics, what we have posted today is only after pics with hair counts, we will finish the hair counts of before pics tomorrow and post the same. Meanwhile the normal size before and after picture of dr manoj is their on my website at HM before after pics section.
          Not all patients including OBI will allow tatto marking.Surgical semi permanent marks get washed away.Scar marks is the other option.
          Meanwhile ,we have divided scalp into small measured units between vertical line connecting occiput to vertex to hairline midpoint above glabella. And with horizontal markings from the highest point
          of left and right ear.
          maybe you can review tomorrow with complete post.

          dr nigam. Im sorry, those micro shots are of no use. Because you are not showing before and after shots, and its impossible to say how you know which hairs are new. You need to use a tatoo marking system (a tiny dot) and take before and after photos. Unfortunately these photos do not demonstrate anything.[/QUOTE]

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          • One
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 132

            Dear dr Nigam you have to understand that people are very skeptical because there are so many bad surgeons around the world, which can ruin your life.

            These are some of the thousands of cases:











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            People want proof irrefutable scientific subjects before committing to an unknown Indian doctor, I hope you will understand.

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            • drnigams
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 551

              Dear neversaynever,

              Kindly view few pics of hair doubling with activated stem cells, more pics tomorrow.

              Also before after pic of Mr.Manoj Mandlik added today.

              Recipient and other pictures tomorrow. Watch for donor area regeneration with bisected hair graft with stem-cell isolation and activation and on recipient pictures (tomorrow) ,watch the bisected follicle growth.



              Age 47, female pattern boldness, on hair line, central scalp, upto vertex.




              Day 0, after extraction of donor grafts, by point 9mm FUE punch 934 grafts extracted

              Day 0, after extraction of donor grafts, by point 9mm FUE punch 934 grafts extracted



              Day 1 donor area (central)

              Day 1 donor area (right)

              Day 1 donor area (lateral)

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              • JJJJrS
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 638

                drnigams, in a previous post, you mentioned that you remove the entire follicle in your donor doubling method. Why then are you showing pictures of the donor area and discussing donor regeneration? Of course the donor will not regenerate if you remove the entire follicle.

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                • drnigams
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 551

                  Both the Bisected FU's
                  can be implanted in the recipient scalp area
                  or one part at the recipient and the other back to the donor area of the extracted FU,as per requirement of the case.
                  Originally posted by JJJJrS
                  drnigams, in a previous post, you mentioned that you remove the entire follicle in your donor doubling method. Why then are you showing pictures of the donor area and discussing donor regeneration? Of course the donor will not regenerate if you remove the entire follicle.

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                  • JJJJrS
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 638

                    Originally posted by drnigams
                    Both the Bisected FU's
                    can be implanted in the recipient scalp area
                    or one part at the recipient and the other back to the donor area of the extracted FU,as per requirement of the case.
                    What exactly do your donor pictures show then? How can we witness donor regeneration in the pictures that you showed when the entire follicle was removed?

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                    • One
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 132

                      Originally posted by JJJJrS
                      What exactly do your donor pictures show then? How can we witness donor regeneration in the pictures that you showed when the entire follicle was removed?

                      I agree, what exactly do your pictures show then?

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                      • neversaynever
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 640

                        Originally posted by JJJJrS
                        What exactly do your donor pictures show then? How can we witness donor regeneration in the pictures that you showed when the entire follicle was removed?
                        They cut the follicle outside of the body, and put one piece in receipient and other back into donor. THose day one photos are aparently with the section of follicle put back in.

                        What i dont understand is, wont those holes be healed up by the time they are ready to put the follicles back in?

                        They extract and wil be some hours before they are ready to implant (remember the cells need activating as well).

                        Unforunately Dr Nigam cant answer specific questions very clearly most the time :/

                        IF he is consistant with the photo taking, maybe we can measure rengeneration. I have a feeling he doesnt understand that we need photos in which we can circle hairs and number them, and then compare to future photos easily.

                        One thing i will say is he seems more keen to offer proof then a certain other doctor, in regards to regeneration.

                        This is all quite frustrating.

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                        • NeedHairASAP
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 1408

                          Do you mean .09mm punch?

                          that looks like a 1.5mm punch....


                          Gho uses a .05mm and it is MUCH MUCH less gruesome looking.

                          That guy is DEFINITELY going to have some scars in the donor...maybe the hairs being planted back in will help? I hope so....


                          All that aside, we appreciate you making the effort to document.


                          I think you should look at Ironman's analysis of GC's HST treatment, that's what we need.

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                          • drnigams
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 551

                            Neversay,
                            I think there is a little communication back between us.Immediately after bisection ,the distal 2/3rd FU was reimplanted into the donor at the extraction site.
                            Activated stemcells were injected separately after 4 hours into the whole scalp including donor extraction sites.
                            Ofcourse, in next two days u will see circled hair with numbers to be able to monitor the regeneration like the iron man photos.

                            Originally posted by neversaynever
                            They cut the follicle outside of the body, and put one piece in receipient and other back into donor. THose day one photos are aparently with the section of follicle put back in.

                            What i dont understand is, wont those holes be healed up by the time they are ready to put the follicles back in?

                            They extract and wil be some hours before they are ready to implant (remember the cells need activating as well).

                            Unforunately Dr Nigam cant answer specific questions very clearly most the time :/

                            IF he is consistant with the photo taking, maybe we can measure rengeneration. I have a feeling he doesnt understand that we need photos in which we can circle hairs and number them, and then compare to future photos easily.

                            One thing i will say is he seems more keen to offer proof then a certain other doctor, in regards to regeneration.

                            This is all quite frustrating.

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                            • drnigams
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 551

                              Needhair,
                              0.9mm punch as against 0.6mm punch of dr gho.We believe the surrounding tissue around the FU has an important role to play in follicle regeneration,hence .9mmpunch.With extracellular matrix,activated stemcells and bisected follicle,there should not be any visible mark.
                              Remember ,the dermal papilla cells and the bulge stemcells are the two major cells required for follicle regeneration.
                              The pics in which you are seeing, the holes larger is a magnified pic;
                              Have a look at the day 1 donor area pic without magnification to asses the size of the punched area.
                              On monday you can view the FU in circles and follow the donor and recipient regeneration.

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                              • drnigams
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 551

                                Dr. Nigam's Hair Doubling with Stem Cell Hair Activation

                                Photographer is absent today, please find better picture tomorrow.

                                Kindly view Day 1 donor area regeneration of bisected follicles at the donor area. Red Circle denotes regeneration of hair follicles and Blue Circle denotes regeneration of hair follicles is not yet seen.


                                Day 1 donor area (central)

                                Red : - Regenrating Bisected Follicule

                                Blue : - Not Fully Visible

                                Day 1 donor area (right)

                                Red : - Regenrating Bisected Follicule

                                Blue : - Not Fully Visible


                                Day 1 donor area (lateral)

                                Red : - Regenrating Bisected Follicule

                                Blue : - Not Fully Visible



                                Day 2 Donor

                                Red : - Regenrating Bisected Follicule

                                Blue : - Not Fully Visible



                                Day 2

                                Recipient Showing Bisected Follicle Regeneration




                                Day 2

                                Recipient Showing Bisected Follicle Regeneration




                                Day 2

                                Recipient Showing Bisected Follicle Regeneration

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