Cetirizine

[hellouser]

That being said, I keep hearing more and more good news about Cetirizine. Casperz from *** just updated again with photos documenting regrowth on an area that has been slick bald for TWENTY YEARS. He's got the pics. He reports hundreds of small, terminal black hairs popping up everywhere.

Another user named baldnesssadness just put up a photo of 6 week results. THE GUY'S HAIRLINE IS GROWING BACK. VISIBLY. This user is also on minox I believe, and I'm not sure how long he's been taking that. But Pate mentioned that a minox/cet combo might be necessary and perhaps he's right.

Can you post links or photos of these guys results? I'm particularly interested in the hairline results, that sounds... promising.

[Conpecia]

Can you post links or photos of these guys results? I'm particularly interested in the hairline results, that sounds... promising.

http://www.****************/interact...chmentid=18765

this is baldnesssadness at 2 months of cet. he is also on minox.

[Pate]

I'm going to start it this weekend.

What is the point of adding PG? I've never been able to get a straight answer.

I'm still finalising my method but for now I will be looking to apply about 10mg/day in distilled water only. I gave up minox about six months ago (and didn't notice any difference, which I guess shows what minox was achieving - f--k all!). The rest of my regimen is 1mg fin per day and 2% keto twice or three times a week.

Conpecia, I am worried about the shed too, which is why I'm going to start on the slick bald areas of my temple and a small depth along the hairline. If there is no major shed, or if there is a shed that grows back noticeably stronger, I will gradually extend it along the rest of my thinning areas.

[The Alchemist]

I'm going to start it this weekend.

What is the point of adding PG? I've never been able to get a straight answer.

I'm still finalising my method but for now I will be looking to apply about 10mg/day in distilled water only. I gave up minox about six months ago (and didn't notice any difference, which I guess shows what minox was achieving - f--k all!). The rest of my regimen is 1mg fin per day and 2% keto twice or three times a week.

Conpecia, I am worried about the shed too, which is why I'm going to start on the slick bald areas of my temple and a small depth along the hairline. If there is no major shed, or if there is a shed that grows back noticeably stronger, I will gradually extend it along the rest of my thinning areas.

PG is added to help with solubility. Because this compound is so water soluble, it may not be necessary. I added to mimic other topicals i've looked at. Ethanol is added too - will help with absorption.

Tomorrow will be my 2 week mark on Cet. I've had some shedding during the first few weeks, for sure. But, other than that, no side effects to speak of. Can't say for sure, but, i think some of the vellus hairs i have near my hairline are getting much longer - almost as long as a normal hair. Not sure if they were like that before, but, i can't recall seeing anything like it. No sign of anything else - but it's very early on for me.

[Conpecia]

I'm going to start it this weekend.

What is the point of adding PG? I've never been able to get a straight answer.

I'm still finalising my method but for now I will be looking to apply about 10mg/day in distilled water only. I gave up minox about six months ago (and didn't notice any difference, which I guess shows what minox was achieving - f--k all!). The rest of my regimen is 1mg fin per day and 2% keto twice or three times a week.

Conpecia, I am worried about the shed too, which is why I'm going to start on the slick bald areas of my temple and a small depth along the hairline. If there is no major shed, or if there is a shed that grows back noticeably stronger, I will gradually extend it along the rest of my thinning areas.

I'm not sure about PG's function, but good to hear that you are going to give this a shot. I may follow your lead and just apply it to slick bald areas on the hairline first, gradually moving back if I get results. Please keep us updated, and good luck with this.

[mjolnir]

Looking at this perhaps a bit more pragmatically, do we know anything at all about how safe this stuff is in high concentrations when applied topically? As someone pointed out earlier, we do have the FDA for a reason.

[Pate]

No, we don't. However we do know it is a very safe drug and we are not applying it in any higher dose than people who take it orally - 10mg. I read up on the safety profile on Pfizer's website and it has proven safe in animals up to many times the standard dose. There were also reports of overdose in humans with no major effects, including an infant who took a staggering 180mg (equivalent to about 1300mg to an adult male!!!) with no major effects.

Finally, I consider this at this stage a short term trial of about 6 months. So I am not worried about long term chronic use effects.

But it is something everybody who is considering this absolutely MUST keep in mind. This usage of Zyrtec HAS NOT been confirmed as safe by regulatory bodies and we assume a certain degree of risk.

[yeahyeahyeah]

No, we don't. However we do know it is a very safe drug and we are not applying it in any higher dose than people who take it orally - 10mg. I read up on the safety profile on Pfizer's website and it has proven safe in animals up to many times the standard dose. There were also reports of overdose in humans with no major effects, including an infant who took a staggering 180mg (equivalent to about 1300mg to an adult male!!!) with no major effects.

Finally, I consider this at this stage a short term trial of about 6 months. So I am not worried about long term chronic use effects.

But it is something everybody who is considering this absolutely MUST keep in mind. This usage of Zyrtec HAS NOT been confirmed as safe by regulatory bodies and we assume a certain degree of risk.

So what happens if this ends up working?

[clandestine]

So what happens if this ends up working?

Uh, then it ends up working? Hair loss cured, etc, etc.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Uh, then it ends up working? Hair loss cured, etc, etc.

Will be hilarious if the cure for hairloss is found by forumers.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Looking at this perhaps a bit more pragmatically, do we know anything at all about how safe this stuff is in high concentrations when applied topically? As someone pointed out earlier, we do have the FDA for a reason.

Well tbh I have a suspicion the FDA will intervene if say this stuff ends up working. Like they did with Dr Lee.

[Pate]

So what happens if this ends up working?

Depending on how well it works, then I will need to make a decision about whether to take the additional risk of chronic longtime use.

But let's not count our chickens just yet.

It would need to be at as good as what those others are seeing to convince me to keep using it. Moderate regrowth isn't worth it for me. But I will say one thing. This is easily the best regrowth I have ever seen on slick bald temples. If these initial indications prove accurate (massive IF) then it could be huge.

I'm still sceptical. But if I see any regrowth at all it'll still be significant. This is not an ideal PGD2 inhibitor and it's not in an ideal vehicle, so any regrowth will be a big plus for future treatments going the PGD2 route.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Depending on how well it works, then I will need to make a decision about whether to take the additional risk of chronic longtime use.

But let's not count our chickens just yet.

It would need to be at as good as what those others are seeing to convince me to keep using it. Moderate regrowth isn't worth it for me. But I will say one thing. This is easily the best regrowth I have ever seen on slick bald temples. If these initial indications prove accurate (massive IF) then it could be huge.

I'm still sceptical. But if I see any regrowth at all it'll still be significant. This is not an ideal PGD2 inhibitor and it's not in an ideal vehicle, so any regrowth will be a big plus for future treatments going the PGD2 route.

The only problem with a lot of the results is that :

a) people are using minox.

How can you attribute the results purely to this PGD2 blocker?

We need people who do this to purely use this alone.

and

b) No proper before and after pics.

Please those people doing this, do take proper before and after pics.

[thechamp]

FDA cannot stop this

How are they going to stop selling hay fever tablets **** them they can not stop this now

[rdawg]

The only problem with a lot of the results is that :

a) people are using minox.

How can you attribute the results purely to this PGD2 blocker?

We need people who do this to purely use this alone.

and

b) No proper before and after pics.

Please those people doing this, do take proper before and after pics.

I agree with A) however there are some that theorize that you need both Minox and a PGD2 inhibitor to get the full benefits(a halting process+a stimulating process.) And from what I've read, most of these people have already been on minox for more than year, so maybe minox just further helps it?

and b) 100%, can we get some concrete before and after pics? Like conpecia I may consider starting this in about a month if I see some strong early progress with no sides. This stuff is really really cheap(like a 2 month supply will cost me 20 bucks.)