Cetirizine

[garethbale]

Where can I get the ingredients (other than Zyrtec) for this. I am in the UK but have no idea where to get them or how to make it.

I will try it without any other topical

[thechamp]

So how big is the shed

Like if your a Norwood 1 what will you be when you start Zyrtec like Norwood 2?

[rdawg]

Is it someone who is trying this with "big 3"? To me it would be a success if it all together could save the shit I have left.

If I see success I will try it with the big 3.

In theory it's probably the most beneficial with the big 3. Fin further halting loss/hold on to what you have, Minoxidil stimulating growth and then this inhibiting the PGD2

[thechamp]

Be a good edition to the big 3, I'm going to just chuck Zyrtec tablets in my minoxidil but I'm scared of the shed since I'm a Norwood one getting thinner!?

[eqvist]

Is it someone who is trying this with "big 3"? To me it would be a success if it all together could save the shit I have left.

[JDW]

Is this being tested by anybody orally or just topically?

[thechamp]

If this works

How the hell can the FDA stop hayfever tablets if they work no way!!

[TravisB]

Sorry guys, but I'm very skeptical about this.

This isn't the first time we had such "breakthrough" on the forums.

Until many people show legit photo evidence that it's working (without Minox and Fin!!!!), I call bullshit

[Pate]

The problem with a) How do we know the minox results were going to kick in anyway after a year?

Extremely unlikely that you'd see no results from minox for a whole year and then suddenly see terminal hairs growing in at the hairline.

So relax! Current treatments almost NEVER grow terminal hairs at the hairline. Certainly not in slick bald temples. If someone has been on minox for a year, or isn't on minox at all, and then they apply cet and suddenly terminal hairs start growing, we can safely assume it's the cet that is causing it.

The minox may be assisting, but that's what trials like mine will work out, because I'm not using minox.

I will be combining it with fin, but I've been on fin for four years now.

I will take photos if I see cosmetic growth. I'm honestly not really expecting to, because I've seen so many of these products get their 15 minutes of fame and then fade into obscurity. But you never know.

At any rate, I'm buying my Zyrtec and my demineralised water on Saturday. I'll mix it up and let it sit overnight and my first application will be on Sunday. My girlfriend (whom I just moved in with) is away all week for work so I won't have to answer any awkward questions about why I'm grinding up an entire 70-pack of antihistamine pills with mortar and pestle.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I agree with A) however there are some that theorize that you need both Minox and a PGD2 inhibitor to get the full benefits(a halting process+a stimulating process.) And from what I've read, most of these people have already been on minox for more than year, so maybe minox just further helps it?

and b) 100%, can we get some concrete before and after pics? Like conpecia I may consider starting this in about a month if I see some strong early progress with no sides. This stuff is really really cheap(like a 2 month supply will cost me 20 bucks.)

The problem with a) How do we know the minox results were going to kick in anyway after a year?

[thechamp]

At least this is going to be a great addtion to treatments we already have!!

[hellouser]

I agree with A) however there are some that theorize that you need both Minox and a PGD2 inhibitor to get the full benefits(a halting process+a stimulating process.) And from what I've read, most of these people have already been on minox for more than year, so maybe minox just further helps it?

and b) 100%, can we get some concrete before and after pics? Like conpecia I may consider starting this in about a month if I see some strong early progress with no sides. This stuff is really really cheap(like a 2 month supply will cost me 20 bucks.)

Remember the rule though:

Same camera. Same location. Same lighting. Same focal length. Same aperture. Same ISO setting. Same shutter speed. Same distance from camera to hair.

Otherwise, the photos aren't going to be as accurate.

[rdawg]

The only problem with a lot of the results is that :

a) people are using minox.

How can you attribute the results purely to this PGD2 blocker?

We need people who do this to purely use this alone.

and

b) No proper before and after pics.

Please those people doing this, do take proper before and after pics.

I agree with A) however there are some that theorize that you need both Minox and a PGD2 inhibitor to get the full benefits(a halting process+a stimulating process.) And from what I've read, most of these people have already been on minox for more than year, so maybe minox just further helps it?

and b) 100%, can we get some concrete before and after pics? Like conpecia I may consider starting this in about a month if I see some strong early progress with no sides. This stuff is really really cheap(like a 2 month supply will cost me 20 bucks.)

[thechamp]

FDA cannot stop this

How are they going to stop selling hay fever tablets **** them they can not stop this now

[yeahyeahyeah]

Depending on how well it works, then I will need to make a decision about whether to take the additional risk of chronic longtime use.

But let's not count our chickens just yet.

It would need to be at as good as what those others are seeing to convince me to keep using it. Moderate regrowth isn't worth it for me. But I will say one thing. This is easily the best regrowth I have ever seen on slick bald temples. If these initial indications prove accurate (massive IF) then it could be huge.

I'm still sceptical. But if I see any regrowth at all it'll still be significant. This is not an ideal PGD2 inhibitor and it's not in an ideal vehicle, so any regrowth will be a big plus for future treatments going the PGD2 route.

The only problem with a lot of the results is that :

a) people are using minox.

How can you attribute the results purely to this PGD2 blocker?

We need people who do this to purely use this alone.

and

b) No proper before and after pics.

Please those people doing this, do take proper before and after pics.