Histogen and hair transplant

[JJJJrS]

by the way, has that user named 'damielmillo' posted the results of his procedure at Gho's clinic?

He posted the results here in the Gho subsection also
1604 grafts HST - Amsterdam 15 May 2012

The thread on the other forum has more details though including photos of the recipient area. I think the bandwidth on the image hosting site has been exceeded so the images are not visible at the moment.

[LPSboxing]

Danmillo posted his photos on hairsite forum.

Im a Gho patient, and will share photos soon. I failed with the photo taking, so there will be no counting of re-generated hair. But gho did over extract from very small areas in my receipient. If it doesnt regenerate, it will be very very obvious.

thanks for the info, I will look at hairsite for his pictures.

Looking forward to see yours. I am seriously evaluating Gho in the near future.

[neversaynever]

ask gho.

10char

im asking you...

[gutted]

Like what?

ask gho.

10char

[neversaynever]

certain stuff you eat/apply and/or take in supplement form can help with the regeneration.

Like what?

[neversaynever]

IMO...HST is for real, but not everyone is an ideal candidate for it. HST is not the solution, but the start of it. Other docs need to investigate vertical transection of follicles and improve on it. Gho is using HST to fund his research. he is still heavily involved in researching hair multiplication. That is still his goal. Making 100 hairs our of 1.

It has been proven that this type of transection can indeed rengerate hairs in the donor, and jahoda also stated that the cells targeted by Gho have the ability to generate an entire follicle. But the problem was getting them to grow in the receipient.

[gutted]

Danmillo posted his photos on hairsite forum.

Im a Gho patient, and will share photos soon. I failed with the photo taking, so there will be no counting of re-generated hair. But gho did over extract from very small areas in my receipient. If it doesnt regenerate, it will be very very obvious.

certain stuff you eat/apply and/or take in supplement form can help with the regeneration.

[neversaynever]

Seems like a lot of Gho's patients who posted here have been chased away...

(I have no idea or not whether Gho's procedure works, but like many here, I'd like it scientifically proven either way.)

Danmillo posted his photos on hairsite forum.

Im a Gho patient, and will share photos soon. I failed with the photo taking, so there will be no counting of re-generated hair. But gho did over extract from very small areas in my receipient. If it doesnt regenerate, it will be very very obvious.

[Kirby_]

by the way, has that user named 'damielmillo' posted the results of his procedure at Gho's clinic?

Seems like a lot of Gho's patients who posted here have been chased away...

(I have no idea or not whether Gho's procedure works, but like many here, I'd like it scientifically proven either way.)

[LPSboxing]

by the way, has that user named 'damielmillo' posted the results of his procedure at Gho's clinic?

[JJJJrS]

For a single transplant, maybe. But if the goal is to achieve a greater donor supply through regeneration, I'd want to see the results of patients who had undergone multiple HST procedures first. And the process of documenting that will take years.

Yeah, of course. I'd like to see someone really pushing the concept with multiple procedures but I know that may take some time.

For now, I'd prefer to get some answers relatively soon though. For example, using the simple study I mentioned in a previous post, it would be enough to show whether HST is superior to FUE and give us a basic understanding of how well it works in a matter of months

[gmonasco]

If we see no visible scarring, 80+% donor regeneration, 90+% recipient yield, and the transplanted hair appears to be of the same quality as the existing hair, after a year or so, then that's enough proof for me personally that his procedure works and is above and beyond all other procedures offered today.

For a single transplant, maybe. But if the goal is to achieve a greater donor supply through regeneration, I'd want to see the results of patients who had undergone multiple HST procedures first. And the process of documenting that will take years.

[JJJJrS]

That's a start, but a substantive analysis of practicality of HST would require much more than that. You'd need to perform examinations of both the transplanted and donor hairs across time to determine how well they grow. (Are they as thick as the original hairs? Do they cycle like the original hairs?) And you'd have to perform the same types of count and quality analyses on hairs transected multiple times to determine whether the notion of "unlimited donor supply" is really feasible.

I said that it wouldn't answer all questions but it would give us some level of proof. If we see no visible scarring, 80+% donor regeneration, 90+% recipient yield, and the transplanted hair appears to be of the same quality as the existing hair, after a year or so, then that's enough proof for me personally that his procedure works and is above and beyond all other procedures offered today. No other procedure even claims to be scarless or offer any donor regeneration, so that by itself is enormous.

Of course, there are other remaining questions that you alluded to, but for now I'll take a study like the one I mentioned. I would love to see an extremely detailed look at HST, but I would hope the same for standard hair transplants, since many questions remain about that as well. Also, nobody claims there is an unlimited donor supply, just 80+% donor regeneration.

[JJJJrS]

I think all it tells us is that people are desperate and will spend their entire life savings on this greedy douche bag.

Screw Gho if he aint going to share his technique freely with other docs like FUT and FUE were shared with him

Its why this world is so screwed up. Greed.

We're only limiting our own options by saying screw Gho.

There has to be a more concentrated effort to prove whether HST works. If we can get that conclusive evidence that it works, then I'm almost certain other clinics will look into it and eventually start offering it. Gho has offered to share the procedure for a $50k fee that includes training and necessary equipment. That would be a success for those who want the procedure offered in more than one place, particularly in the hands of the more artistically talented doctors.

For those who don't trust Gho and are skeptical, like 25 going on 65, then there are even more reasons to push an investigation into how well HST works. The waiting lists at his clinic are huge and he's easily getting more attention than any other surgeon in the industry. If you believe he's conning people, ignoring the procedure isn't going to help anybody.

And I agree that greed and ethics are major problems in general, but it's even worse in this sleazy industry.

[gmonasco]

Get one of them in touch with a dermatologist, take clear before and after pictures of the donor and recipient and count the hairs. It won't answer all questions about HST but it will prove whether the procedure works or not.

That's a start, but a substantive analysis of practicality of HST would require much more than that. You'd need to perform examinations of both the transplanted and donor hairs across time to determine how well they grow. (Are they as thick as the original hairs? Do they cycle like the original hairs?) And you'd have to perform the same types of count and quality analyses on hairs transected multiple times to determine whether the notion of "unlimited donor supply" is really feasible.