Histogen and hair transplant

[Maradona]

They're supposed to stimulate the amount of hair growth, not the rate of hair growth.

No shit but you also get a greater rate of hair growth. If the amount is increased in one day by twice, then the rate also increases.

You are stimulating the hair follicle to GROW hair.

You think there is a limit where the body says "OK guys we've reached our limit for today, close the gate so no more histogen can get in".

Hahaha, you just made a new discovery.

Guys listen up ! Anything that makes hair follicles grow past 1/2 inch in a month is a snake oil.

It's gotta work just like propecia or it's snake oil !

[gmonasco]

These are hair growing stimulating injections, they are supposed to increase the hair growth rate.

They're supposed to stimulate the amount of hair growth, not the rate of hair growth.

[CAlex]

I wasnt aware they made 10cm holes in the recipient site. well I see you have all the answers. Ill come back when you decide to release the cure Madonna.

he might fore-go the endo and send you to a psychologist because you seem insane.

[Maradona]

Why not? I think it's important to provide all relevant info to help get to the bottom of it. I know the medical community is generally not up to speed on this.

what is he going to do other than refer me to an endocrinologist?

Is there a propecia cure pill? treatment? that will revert you back before propecia?

No.

I'll give it 9 months but my dick is fine I have other issues though.

[chrisis]

Yeah but I didn't tell him I took propecia. Wtfs the point?

Why not? I think it's important to provide all relevant info to help get to the bottom of it. I know the medical community is generally not up to speed on this.

[Maradona]

when did everyone on here receive their phd? How can you ay having an ht will destroy dormant follicles and make any of the current treatments in the pipeline unusable on those who have?

Pretty arrogant and uninformed to speak in definites when even the researchers carrying out the trials don't know these answers yet.

whos to say that having hair in an area,even ht hair wont aid in hsc effectiveness. Im fine with people expressing their opinions and discussing things but it gets ridiculous when people start talking with 100% certainty they obtained straight out of their As$$hole crystal ball.

my 2 cents is all. Ill check back in when the company has info to release.

It don't take no researcher to find this out. Make a 10cm hole in your head , see if u still see your follicles growing.

[CAlex]

when did everyone on here receive their phd? How can you ay having an ht will destroy dormant follicles and make any of the current treatments in the pipeline unusable on those who have?

Pretty arrogant and uninformed to speak in definites when even the researchers carrying out the trials don't know these answers yet.

whos to say that having hair in an area,even ht hair wont aid in hsc effectiveness. Im fine with people expressing their opinions and discussing things but it gets ridiculous when people start talking with 100% certainty they obtained straight out of their As$$hole crystal ball.

my 2 cents is all. Ill check back in when the company has info to release.

[Sogeking]

Women have less DHT in their scalps, so basically that might be the reason for worse or less effective results in men. But this is all just speculation.

I believe the current Histogen phase I/II trials should have 6 months timepoint trial data sometimes in september or october. And that will be interesting to see.
So far Histogen is showing promise as good moderately effective treatment, especially for early MPB onset and thinning hair.

[Maradona]

Hey Maradana (not actually the footballer I know), how long after taking it are you still suffering?

You have been to the docs I take it? Sorry if this has already been discussed...

Yeah but I didn't tell him I took propecia. Wtfs the point?

[chrisis]

I fukin regret taking propecia to the core of my heart everyday.
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Hey Maradana (not actually the footballer I know), how long after taking it are you still suffering?

You have been to the docs I take it? Sorry if this has already been discussed...

[25 going on 65]

Yeah, I'd like a male example too. It's concerning that they don't have any dramatic shots of males like they have with females. But really, it could just be that female hairloss draws a lot more sympathy. Maybe they thought it would be better for investors. Or maybe it doesn't show as cosmetically significant results in males. Who knows?

What I'm thinking is that females don't normally develop slick bald patches--in the picture everyone got excited about in Histogen's last trial results, if you look carefully the woman's temple is not bald at all. It's just very thin. So the injections were effectively targeting a diffuse thinning area and not a bald area.
The realistic part of me thinks that the injections wouldn't show nearly as good results on a man's temple, because male temples usually go slick bald instead of diffuse thinning in a Ludwig pattern.
Don't get me wrong though, I would love for Histogen to prove me wrong on this. What an amazing breakthrough that would be.

[Davey Jones]

While is a little bit extreme to say she turned to an NW 0 (I still see some thinning) yes, that was an amazing result, way better than anything else

I still want to see a male pic though, as far as I know they have never showed one

Yeah, I'd like a male example too. It's concerning that they don't have any dramatic shots of males like they have with females. But really, it could just be that female hairloss draws a lot more sympathy. Maybe they thought it would be better for investors. Or maybe it doesn't show as cosmetically significant results in males. Who knows?

[krewel]

I would've just waited 1 or 2 years before jumping on propecia man. I could've gotten a hair transplant on whatever hairline I lost.

I fukin regret taking propecia to the core of my heart everyday.

Give it a year if you're still ****ed up in one year, no matter what anyone tells you. You should drop the drug, some people just do not responde to DHT blockers. In fact, the exact opposite happens.

Like some here, I started losing hair before I was 20 and I knew will lose them very fast, but I always refused to take Fin or Propecia. I'd rather be bald. I'm almost a NW3 now, but still, I would never use one of them.
I don't think it's right to interfere with your endocrine system for aesthetic reasons, since this is a drug you have to take permanently and not like for some weeks.
DHT is an important hormon, which also affects your psyche. It's not really possible to detect hormonal based psychic sideeffects, which occur very gradually. And that's why they're obviously not mentioned.

Anyway, in my oppinion people are focusing too much on DHT (especially in this Histogen matter). Of course DHT has some part in MPB, but by far, that's not the whole key. I think everyone can be affected by MPB epigenetically. I'm pretty certain there are a few enviromental impacts which can trigger this process. I think Maradona was talking about it some posts ago, mentioning diets and so on, and I think he's got a point. That would also help explaining MPB's way through the evolution.

Histogen is doing great, it's generating regrowth and that's important.

[Maradona]

Maradona, I still would've started Propecia even if we knew for definite certain that these treatments will ever come out, let alone had realistic availability dates. I naively believed back in January that these would actually arrive and started Propecia with the intent of using it as something to tide me over... Now I'm thinking realistically, I'll be very surprised if anything actually works if it is released (see the PRP/A cell injection debacle)

I would've just waited 1 or 2 years before jumping on propecia man. I could've gotten a hair transplant on whatever hairline I lost.

I fukin regret taking propecia to the core of my heart everyday.

Give it a year if you're still ****ed up in one year, no matter what anyone tells you. You should drop the drug, some people just do not responde to DHT blockers. In fact, the exact opposite happens.

[Kirby_]

Maradona, I still would've started Propecia even if we knew for definite certain that these treatments will ever come out, let alone had realistic availability dates. I naively believed back in January that these would actually arrive and started Propecia with the intent of using it as something to tide me over... Now I'm thinking realistically, I'll be very surprised if anything actually works if it is released (see the PRP/A cell injection debacle)