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  • neversaynever
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 640

    #91
    Maybe it was just with me. I dont know.

    They seem VERY confident of HST. But in my mind, theres no doubt that other doctors need to look into it. Not even just HST, just this vertical transection of follicles.

    The idea is simple. From what i understand, they transect the upper two thirds of a follicle, and it regenerates. There was another study backing this up. And jahoda also said that those cells on the side of the follicle have the ability to rengenerate a complete follicle. How hard can it be to look into that?

    The other issue is getting that partial fragment to grow a new DP and grow hairs in the receipient area. That is where his 'storage medium' comes into play.

    Dr Cole is the only doctor on the planet looking into this (as far as we know). Its crazy. These guys could prove or disprove HST so easily.

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    • aim4hair
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 437

      #92
      Originally posted by neversaynever
      Gho made the recepient holes and hairline. His technicians did all the extracting and implanting.

      Im happy enough with the hairline. I was insisting he can go for a more receeding, widows peak look. That would allow a slightly better density too. He said no. He flat out refused. he wouldnt listen. I find that strange. I got the typical gho hairline.

      Overall, I think HST is in the wrong hands. He is no HT artist, and in general I didnt really like the service. I remember one tech having trouble extracting grafts, and another came to take over. The technician said "thank god!!!!" and said some stuff in dutch. Is that really the attitude we need in the HT chair? They spoke in dutch 90% of the time between themselves.

      I then asked "whats the problem excatly?". The reply was "theres no problem. Just hard to extract the grafts". I get the feeling there was more to it than that.

      But i have very little scarring, receipient is doing well. Overall, no complaints so far with the outcome.

      I just think in better hands, HST would become a gold standard (for those who need less than 1600 grafts).

      I really like ‎Wessly Shnijder hairline, so if you got a similar one it would be pretty good speially if you keep your hair short.

      so you think if you shave to the skin like dean saunders no scaring would be visible as well ???

      Also, after how long from your HT nobody could tell you had work done.. i migh go for HST soon and i don't want anybody at work noticing i had a hair transplant so how long should i took off work before i look completly normal.


      Thanks,

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      • bananana
        Inactive
        • Feb 2012
        • 524

        #93
        neversay, your gho operation sounds exactly the same as my turkish one I had last year.

        I don't know if I have any scars really (hope not), but one thing I know - I'm gonna be nw5 in 5-7 years if I don't do anything. Which means I need at least 3 more ops, I was thinking going to gho, but I'm hoping histogen would come out in 2-3 years, that would save me.

        Anyways, I'm thinking those "micro" sessions are a bit pointless for someone needing at least 4000 grafts. In this situation, it would take at least 3 years, 3 visits and 30 000 euro.

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        • 534623
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 1854

          #94
          Originally posted by neversaynever
          But i have very little scarring
          wow, you must have a really good eyesight - especially on the back and sides of your phony head.

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          • 534623
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1854

            #95
            Originally posted by neversaynever
            I know donor regenration is a big selling point, and of course the biggest talking point on forums
            ahhhhhhhhhh

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            • neversaynever
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 640

              #96
              Originally posted by 534623
              wow, you must have a really good eyesight - especially on the back and sides of your phony head.
              By very little scarring I mean scars that are visible by the naked eye.

              I have a USB microscope now, ill be using that to check things soon.

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              • neversaynever
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 640

                #97
                Originally posted by aim4hair
                I really like ‎Wessly Shnijder hairline, so if you got a similar one it would be pretty good speially if you keep your hair short.

                so you think if you shave to the skin like dean saunders no scaring would be visible as well ???

                Also, after how long from your HT nobody could tell you had work done.. i migh go for HST soon and i don't want anybody at work noticing i had a hair transplant so how long should i took off work before i look completly normal.


                Thanks,
                Ive asked some people to check the back of my head, they didnt find much. In the mirror I cant see anything. Im pretty sure ill more using a usb microscope and with hi-def photos. I cut my hair grade 0.

                There was no sign of a transplant after 9 days. Unless you have very fair skin, in which case im not sure.

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                • neversaynever
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 640

                  #98
                  Originally posted by 534623
                  ahhhhhhhhhh
                  ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.

                  Im not a phony. I can prove I had HST very easily.

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                  • NeedHairASAP
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 1408

                    #99
                    Originally posted by 534623
                    ahhhhhhhhhh
                    why do you get so angry about Gho?


                    it's like your pissed off when you hear that there have been several studies by OTHER doctors that confirm the science behind Gho's HST, then you get pissed when forum members say they had a good procedure...


                    but I'm sure you're all over replicel and histogen threads... just a few more years right!!??? loser...

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                    • LPSboxing
                      Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 94

                      Originally posted by neversaynever
                      Had HST in march. Only 1200 grafts. I think some people are not ideal candidates for HST (inc myself).

                      They found it extremely difficult to extract grafts from my donor.
                      hey neversaynever,

                      thanks for all the info you are giving us. So, what makes someone a good or bad candidate for HST?

                      why is it that your donor is difficult to extract? is it very dense/thick?

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                      • Kiwi
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1087

                        Originally posted by LPSboxing
                        hey neversaynever,

                        thanks for all the info you are giving us. So, what makes someone a good or bad candidate for HST?

                        why is it that your donor is difficult to extract? is it very dense/thick?
                        I'd like to know that too.

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                        • neversaynever
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 640

                          Originally posted by LPSboxing
                          hey neversaynever,

                          thanks for all the info you are giving us. So, what makes someone a good or bad candidate for HST?

                          why is it that your donor is difficult to extract? is it very dense/thick?
                          Medium-low density. Around 45 fu per cm2. But very thick hair.

                          My 2 and 3 hair follicles are set out in a row. Hard to describe. Basically...in my 3 hair grafts...the hairs sprout seperately, in a row, quite widely spread apart. Making it difficult for their small extraction tool to extract 3 hair grafts and some 2 hair grafts. Thats my assumption at this point.

                          I think they also struggled with the angles of my follicles. I believe its quite erratic back there, not very uniform. At one point the technician asked if i have curly hair (which I dont). I believe she asked this because they were struggling with the odd angles of my follicles. Anyone else got any opinions on this? alot of it are my own conclusions....

                          The thickeness of my hair might have contributed to the problem too. I dont know. Thats what i mean about the lack of service from them. They obviously had difficulty, but even after asking what the problem is...i have no idea.

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                          • Kiwi
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1087

                            Originally posted by neversaynever
                            Medium-low density. Around 45 fu per cm2. But very thick hair.

                            My 2 and 3 hair follicles are set out in a row. Hard to describe. Basically...in my 3 hair grafts...the hairs sprout seperately, in a row, quite widely spread apart. Making it difficult for their small extraction tool to extract 3 hair grafts and some 2 hair grafts. Thats my assumption at this point.

                            I think they also struggled with the angles of my follicles. I believe its quite erratic back there, not very uniform. At one point the technician asked if i have curly hair (which I dont). I believe she asked this because they were struggling with the odd angles of my follicles. Anyone else got any opinions on this? alot of it are my own conclusions....

                            The thickeness of my hair might have contributed to the problem too. I dont know. Thats what i mean about the lack of service from them. They obviously had difficulty, but even after asking what the problem is...i have no idea.
                            So we still don't have 1 single member on this site that has said "yes my donor is regrown".... this anticipation is more intense then Histogen :P

                            I think at this stage all we can say is that Gho is probably one of the best FUE docs in the world.

                            How is your recipient area going mate?

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                            • aim4hair
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 437

                              Originally posted by Kiwi
                              So we still don't have 1 single member on this site that has said "yes my donor is regrown".... this anticipation is more intense then Histogen :P

                              I think at this stage all we can say is that Gho is probably one of the best FUE docs in the world.

                              How is your recipient area going mate?
                              Gc83uk had donor re-growth and he got alot of pics to prove that but again some ppl might say his hair was splitted.
                              You made one good point, you know some ppl don't really care about donor regrowth, there are many other advantages of HST over traditional FUE such as lack of scaring and faster recovery, everybody who went to gho confirmed those 2 issues.

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                              • Kiwi
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 1087

                                Originally posted by aim4hair
                                Gc83uk had donor re-growth and he got alot of pics to prove that but again some ppl might say his hair was splitted.
                                You made one good point, you know some ppl don't really care about donor regrowth, there are many other advantages of HST over traditional FUE such as lack of scaring and faster recovery, everybody who went to gho confirmed those 2 issues.
                                But did Gc83uk really have strong regrowth? We havent heard from him in months now... so perhaps not? I'm just saying I don't really know. Who does???

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