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  • JJJJrS
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 638

    #46
    Originally posted by gmonasco
    That's a start, but a substantive analysis of practicality of HST would require much more than that. You'd need to perform examinations of both the transplanted and donor hairs across time to determine how well they grow. (Are they as thick as the original hairs? Do they cycle like the original hairs?) And you'd have to perform the same types of count and quality analyses on hairs transected multiple times to determine whether the notion of "unlimited donor supply" is really feasible.
    I said that it wouldn't answer all questions but it would give us some level of proof. If we see no visible scarring, 80+% donor regeneration, 90+% recipient yield, and the transplanted hair appears to be of the same quality as the existing hair, after a year or so, then that's enough proof for me personally that his procedure works and is above and beyond all other procedures offered today. No other procedure even claims to be scarless or offer any donor regeneration, so that by itself is enormous.

    Of course, there are other remaining questions that you alluded to, but for now I'll take a study like the one I mentioned. I would love to see an extremely detailed look at HST, but I would hope the same for standard hair transplants, since many questions remain about that as well. Also, nobody claims there is an unlimited donor supply, just 80+% donor regeneration.

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    • gmonasco
      Inactive
      • Apr 2010
      • 865

      #47
      If we see no visible scarring, 80+% donor regeneration, 90+% recipient yield, and the transplanted hair appears to be of the same quality as the existing hair, after a year or so, then that's enough proof for me personally that his procedure works and is above and beyond all other procedures offered today.
      For a single transplant, maybe. But if the goal is to achieve a greater donor supply through regeneration, I'd want to see the results of patients who had undergone multiple HST procedures first. And the process of documenting that will take years.

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      • JJJJrS
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 638

        #48
        Originally posted by gmonasco
        For a single transplant, maybe. But if the goal is to achieve a greater donor supply through regeneration, I'd want to see the results of patients who had undergone multiple HST procedures first. And the process of documenting that will take years.
        Yeah, of course. I'd like to see someone really pushing the concept with multiple procedures but I know that may take some time.

        For now, I'd prefer to get some answers relatively soon though. For example, using the simple study I mentioned in a previous post, it would be enough to show whether HST is superior to FUE and give us a basic understanding of how well it works in a matter of months

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        • LPSboxing
          Member
          • May 2012
          • 94

          #49
          by the way, has that user named 'damielmillo' posted the results of his procedure at Gho's clinic?

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          • Kirby_
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 439

            #50
            Originally posted by LPSboxing
            by the way, has that user named 'damielmillo' posted the results of his procedure at Gho's clinic?
            Seems like a lot of Gho's patients who posted here have been chased away...

            (I have no idea or not whether Gho's procedure works, but like many here, I'd like it scientifically proven either way.)

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            • neversaynever
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 640

              #51
              Originally posted by Kirby_
              Seems like a lot of Gho's patients who posted here have been chased away...

              (I have no idea or not whether Gho's procedure works, but like many here, I'd like it scientifically proven either way.)
              Danmillo posted his photos on hairsite forum.

              Im a Gho patient, and will share photos soon. I failed with the photo taking, so there will be no counting of re-generated hair. But gho did over extract from very small areas in my receipient. If it doesnt regenerate, it will be very very obvious.

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              • gutted
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1397

                #52
                Originally posted by neversaynever
                Danmillo posted his photos on hairsite forum.

                Im a Gho patient, and will share photos soon. I failed with the photo taking, so there will be no counting of re-generated hair. But gho did over extract from very small areas in my receipient. If it doesnt regenerate, it will be very very obvious.
                certain stuff you eat/apply and/or take in supplement form can help with the regeneration.

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                • neversaynever
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 640

                  #53
                  IMO...HST is for real, but not everyone is an ideal candidate for it. HST is not the solution, but the start of it. Other docs need to investigate vertical transection of follicles and improve on it. Gho is using HST to fund his research. he is still heavily involved in researching hair multiplication. That is still his goal. Making 100 hairs our of 1.

                  It has been proven that this type of transection can indeed rengerate hairs in the donor, and jahoda also stated that the cells targeted by Gho have the ability to generate an entire follicle. But the problem was getting them to grow in the receipient.

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                  • neversaynever
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 640

                    #54
                    Originally posted by gutted
                    certain stuff you eat/apply and/or take in supplement form can help with the regeneration.
                    Like what?

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                    • gutted
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1397

                      #55
                      Originally posted by neversaynever
                      Like what?
                      ask gho.

                      10char

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                      • neversaynever
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 640

                        #56
                        Originally posted by gutted
                        ask gho.

                        10char
                        im asking you...

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                        • LPSboxing
                          Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 94

                          #57
                          Originally posted by neversaynever
                          Danmillo posted his photos on hairsite forum.

                          Im a Gho patient, and will share photos soon. I failed with the photo taking, so there will be no counting of re-generated hair. But gho did over extract from very small areas in my receipient. If it doesnt regenerate, it will be very very obvious.
                          thanks for the info, I will look at hairsite for his pictures.

                          Looking forward to see yours. I am seriously evaluating Gho in the near future.

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                          • JJJJrS
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 638

                            #58
                            Originally posted by LPSboxing
                            by the way, has that user named 'damielmillo' posted the results of his procedure at Gho's clinic?
                            He posted the results here in the Gho subsection also
                            1604 grafts HST - Amsterdam 15 May 2012

                            The thread on the other forum has more details though including photos of the recipient area. I think the bandwidth on the image hosting site has been exceeded so the images are not visible at the moment.

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                            • LPSboxing
                              Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 94

                              #59
                              I am particularly impressed by the incredibly fast recovery that almost EVERYONE seems to have after Gho's procedure.

                              This, and the fact that almost all of the implanted hair start growing immediately at the same rate of the native hair + the absence of scars makes this procedure LIGHT YEARS AHEAD of every other FUE, FUT and whatnot.

                              Even if the donor regeneration proves to be a lie ( which I don't think it is ).

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                              • aim4hair
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 437

                                #60
                                Originally posted by neversaynever
                                Danmillo posted his photos on hairsite forum.

                                Im a Gho patient, and will share photos soon. I failed with the photo taking, so there will be no counting of re-generated hair. But gho did over extract from very small areas in my receipient. If it doesnt regenerate, it will be very very obvious.
                                Did you get any scar ? Are you happy with the result so far?

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