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  • yeahyeahyeah
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1776

    Originally posted by thechamp
    U trying this stuff this is exciting
    Received 2 bottles today.

    Hesitant to start, not sure what the effects of blocking DHT will have on body building.

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    • Maradona
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 822

      Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
      Received 2 bottles today.

      Hesitant to start, not sure what the effects of blocking DHT will have on body building.
      Be very careful yeahyeahyeah. I don't see the difference with finasteride on this pill. You still are stopping DHT all around your body.

      That's just my advice. Anything that is a pill is a big no no for me!

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      • damielmillo
        Member
        • May 2011
        • 77

        I think is really different...You are only blocking DHT so much be safer than Fin.
        Fin blocks 5AR and has effect in the brain , libido and more...
        I hope Equol can work like Fin without sides, i am waiting for my pills next week.!!
        Keep updated!!

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        • neversaynever
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 640

          Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
          Received 2 bottles today.

          Hesitant to start, not sure what the effects of blocking DHT will have on body building.
          Ive seen forum posts of guys on fin who achieved massive gains in the gym.

          You are not getting rid of all the DHT in your body.

          If you are worried about sides, dont take them. I would say its better to start these DHT treatments with a relaxed attitude.

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          • neversaynever
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 640

            Originally posted by Maradona
            Be very careful yeahyeahyeah. I don't see the difference with finasteride on this pill. You still are stopping DHT all around your body.

            That's just my advice. Anything that is a pill is a big no no for me!
            The difference is really simple. Fin blocks 5ar...so it blocks many hormone mechanisms in the body, including DHT of course.

            Equol ONLY blocks DHT.

            That is a huge difference. Everyone see's the DHT lowering, but everyones forgetting 5ar.

            The other nice thing, that people dont want to accept, is that equol has many other health benefits. In the skin, brain, non essential fat burning, thyroid and others.

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            • Maradona
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 822

              Originally posted by neversaynever
              The difference is really simple. Fin blocks 5ar...so it blocks many hormone mechanisms in the body, including DHT of course.

              Equol ONLY blocks DHT.

              That is a huge difference. Everyone see's the DHT lowering, but everyones forgetting 5ar.

              The other nice thing, that people dont want to accept, is that equol has many other health benefits. In the skin, brain, non essential fat burning, thyroid and others.
              I was thinking that 5ar's only purpose was to make DHT from T and not other hormones that cause side effects.

              The side effects come from the lack of DHT to your body parts this includes the brain, penis,muscle,hair,body hair, mood,etc.

              So if you block the DHT you will block all these things from performing well.

              Mouth: Hey guys no DHT anymore! / Swallos DHT blocking pill.
              AR Receptors all over your body go: "What's going on"?
              Endocryine system says: "I don't know. Looks like we don't have DHT, let me fix it by increasing other hormones like estrogen and also change your sensitivity to androgens".
              Brain: "Don't do it !!!"
              Body: "Noooooooooooooooooooooo. /Makes sound of crash".
              Fingers: " click click /typing propeciahelp.com"

              This is exactly what happened to me.

              Hope I explained it well

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              • Maradona
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 822

                Originally posted by damielmillo
                I think is really different...You are only blocking DHT so much be safer than Fin.
                Fin blocks 5AR and has effect in the brain , libido and more...
                I hope Equol can work like Fin without sides, i am waiting for my pills next week.!!
                Keep updated!!
                danielmillo te mande un mensaje. Porfavor chequealo, gracias.

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                • neversaynever
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 640

                  Originally posted by Maradona
                  I was thinking that 5ar's only purpose was to make DHT from T and not other hormones that cause side effects.

                  The side effects come from the lack of DHT to your body parts this includes the brain, penis,muscle,hair,body hair, mood,etc.

                  So if you block the DHT you will block all these things from performing well.

                  Mouth: Hey guys no DHT anymore! / Swallos DHT blocking pill.
                  AR Receptors all over your body go: "What's going on"?
                  Endocryine system says: "I don't know. Looks like we don't have DHT, let me fix it by increasing other hormones like estrogen and also change your sensitivity to androgens".
                  Brain: "Don't do it !!!"
                  Body: "Noooooooooooooooooooooo. /Makes sound of crash".
                  Fingers: " click click /typing propeciahelp.com"

                  This is exactly what happened to me.

                  Hope I explained it well
                  Nicely explained

                  BUT, ive come to learn that 5ar is also responsible for other things like neuroactive steroids. These steroids are heavily linked with fighting depression, and other brain related stuff. Depression can also make your dicks limp....

                  I read one study indicating that the main mechanism for anti-depressants is to raise these steroid levels. Why everyone thinks they have limp dicks because of lower DHT, perhaps its the brain having lower neuroactive steroid levels?

                  Another factor might be SHBG. I believe equol slighty raises SHBG, which is a protein that binds to both estrogen and T, making them inactive. Balding guys have significantly lower SHBG levels...

                  Given how complex our hormone balance is, and that every person has different levels of every compound...I dont think we can simply attribute ALL of fins sides to DHT reduction. There are alot of guys out there who get zero sides from fin for years...maybe because their particular hormonal balance is ok with lower DHT levels. I dont know.

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                  • winston2208
                    Junior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 3

                    been hoovering round this site for a while now, and just registered to post so i could express my concerns over this folexen site. to me the site looks completely mickey mouse, as in i could knock it up in an hr, and i'm no web developer, there is no contact besides email which is also highly suspicious. now all this would say to me (and i could be wrong) that there is a likelihood that you're buying extremely expensive multi vitamins, a site that has 5 pages with a few stock images and no contact bar email just doesn't sit right with me. maybe i've gone to the wrong site, but i couldn't find any others, anyhow, just though i'd post my concerns.

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                    • Kiwi
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1087

                      Originally posted by Maradona
                      I was thinking that 5ar's only purpose was to make DHT from T and not other hormones that cause side effects.

                      The side effects come from the lack of DHT to your body parts this includes the brain, penis,muscle,hair,body hair, mood,etc.

                      So if you block the DHT you will block all these things from performing well.

                      Mouth: Hey guys no DHT anymore! / Swallos DHT blocking pill.
                      AR Receptors all over your body go: "What's going on"?
                      Endocryine system says: "I don't know. Looks like we don't have DHT, let me fix it by increasing other hormones like estrogen and also change your sensitivity to androgens".
                      Brain: "Don't do it !!!"
                      Body: "Noooooooooooooooooooooo. /Makes sound of crash".
                      Fingers: " click click /typing propeciahelp.com"

                      This is exactly what happened to me.

                      Hope I explained it well
                      Hey bro are you saying you tried this stuff out?

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                      • yeahyeahyeah
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1776

                        Originally posted by winston2208
                        been hoovering round this site for a while now, and just registered to post so i could express my concerns over this folexen site. to me the site looks completely mickey mouse, as in i could knock it up in an hr, and i'm no web developer, there is no contact besides email which is also highly suspicious. now all this would say to me (and i could be wrong) that there is a likelihood that you're buying extremely expensive multi vitamins, a site that has 5 pages with a few stock images and no contact bar email just doesn't sit right with me. maybe i've gone to the wrong site, but i couldn't find any others, anyhow, just though i'd post my concerns.
                        It's a start up. What do you expect?

                        Saying that - I still haven't taken any of the capsules YET.

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                        • winston2208
                          Junior Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 3

                          Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                          It's a start up. What do you expect?

                          Saying that - I still haven't taken any of the capsules YET.

                          just expressing a concern, nearly all legit businesses have contact information, its very fishy when they don't.

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                          • jpm
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 248

                            Originally posted by winston2208
                            just expressing a concern, nearly all legit businesses have contact information, its very fishy when they don't.
                            while I agree it isn't the best looking website out there. There is a site: ukfinasteride.info that looks 'poorly' made but it is 100% genuine and me and countless others buy fin from there.

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                            • winston2208
                              Junior Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 3

                              Originally posted by jpm
                              while I agree it isn't the best looking website out there. There is a site: ukfinasteride.info that looks 'poorly' made but it is 100% genuine and me and countless others buy fin from there.
                              i can't speak in regards to ukfinastride, i'm not policing websites, i just happened to take a look at the folexen site because it sounds promising, alas i won't be buying from the site as it doesn't look trustworthy to me. quality of the website aside the main concern i have is the lack of contact info, surely a company that produces s-equol has some physical place of business. the reason i'm concerned is that as we all know the balding community is looking for anything, the slightest hint at something resembling a treatment whether proven or not and they'll be people wanting to buy the stuff. now in regards to this website it'd take very little to set up, very little to have mass produced labels, bottles, and sugar pills, and as we all know word spreads over the internet and before you know it you've sold thousands of bottles of the stuff and made a tidy profit off the back of peoples desperation.

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                              • PatientlyWaiting
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1637

                                Originally posted by winston2208
                                i can't speak in regards to ukfinastride, i'm not policing websites, i just happened to take a look at the folexen site because it sounds promising, alas i won't be buying from the site as it doesn't look trustworthy to me. quality of the website aside the main concern i have is the lack of contact info, surely a company that produces s-equol has some physical place of business. the reason i'm concerned is that as we all know the balding community is looking for anything, the slightest hint at something resembling a treatment whether proven or not and they'll be people wanting to buy the stuff. now in regards to this website it'd take very little to set up, very little to have mass produced labels, bottles, and sugar pills, and as we all know word spreads over the internet and before you know it you've sold thousands of bottles of the stuff and made a tidy profit off the back of peoples desperation.
                                Becareful, the Equol fanboys don't like it when their product is being questioned with legit questions and concerns.

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