If it were PGD2.....

[gutted]

what for? I responded with: your body is able to enlarge and shrink follicles based on whatever cycle it's currently on. non-balding people can't do that - the follicle is stuck in resting phase.
HISTOGEN can provide some growing that will enlarge follicles again for ONE ANAGANE PHASE AGAIN but once it goes into telogen phase, you won't have the capability to turn them into anagen hair again....

why can't you understand what I'm saying?

cause you are talking out out of your ass!!! loooool

minutrisation is a term used to describe progressiev thinning of hair follciles and only occurs in mpb.

You arent understanding what minutrisation means. There is no minuturisation going on in the hair cycle. There is only decreased and increased growth/proliferation of hair cells during the different cycles.

After the telogen cycle - and during the "early anagen" the new hair follcile that is formed in MPB is minutuarised. This is progressive in mpb.

Stop going on about histogen. Histogen can last forever, if you know your stuff.

[gutted]

that is the assumption for most of you, but I'm saying no. Why would they be able to regenerate again? PGD2 is still there and it probably supresses all the natural growth factors that your body provides... this is getting hopeless but no one understands me

this is why i said if you address the inflammation which is why there is elevated pgd2 in the first place the histogen hairs will last forever.

[2020]

You arent understanding what minutrisation means. There is no minuturisation going on in the hair cycle. There is only decreased and increased growth/proliferation of hair cells during the different cycles.

miniaturization, shrinkage whatever. Read this post:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=69817&postcount=52

FOLLICLE SIZE naturally changes as it goes from cycle to cycle. DO YOU AGREE?

[2020]

this is why i said if you address the inflammation which is why there is elevated pgd2 in the first place the histogen hairs will last forever.

if you remove PGD2 you would get full regrowth anyways due to your natural growth factors operating as usual without Histogen so I don't see why you would need Histogen at all...

My point is that Histogen WON'T reverse your MPB but rather just provide your follicles with one last cycle. I wasn't planning on using MPB treatments after Histogen injection so this sucks

[gutted]

miniaturization, shrinkage whatever. Read this post:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=69817&postcount=52

FOLLICLE SIZE naturally changes as it goes from cycle to cycle. DO YOU AGREE?

dude i dont think im going anywhere with you. Link me to the spurce of that info.

[2020]

dude i dont think im going anywhere with you. Link me to the spurce of that info.

right, so I'm guessing 100% of people didn't know that actual follicle size changes from cycle to cycle... that makes Histogen and all other stimulants useless

http://www.hairdoc.com/book/Chapter_02_hair_loss_answers.pdf

[Hairismylife]

right, so I'm guessing 100% of people didn't know that actual follicle size changes from cycle to cycle... that makes Histogen and all other stimulants useless

http://www.hairdoc.com/book/Chapter_...ss_answers.pdf

That means Histogen-created follicles won't last for long?

[2020]

That means Histogen-created follicles won't last for long?

exactly one anagen phase. Once it falls out, you will lose it for good. Since ~100 hairs fall out each day, you will lose those 100 hairs permanently.... scientists are ****ing stupid that's all I have to say

[ccmethinning]

The histogen charade is over

[2020]

The histogen charade is over

exactly why the **** didn't Spencer ask this question during their 40 minute interview:

what makes you think a follicle will start a second cycle after growth factors for the first cycle stop working?

I changed my position from optimistic to we're all ****ed...

[ccmethinning]

exactly why the **** didn't Spencer ask this question during their 40 minute interview:

what makes you think a follicle will start a second cycle after growth factors for the first cycle stop working?

I changed my position from optimistic to we're all ****ed...

There's still Gho.

[Hairismylife]

exactly why the **** didn't Spencer ask this question during their 40 minute interview:

what makes you think a follicle will start a second cycle after growth factors for the first cycle stop working?

I changed my position from optimistic to we're all ****ed...

Aderans still here

[Ryan333]

I don't think it's a question of blocking PGD2 completely, it's about stopping it binding to a certain receptor, the receptor that OC000459 targets, so you won't be affecting its positive effects on hair cycling.

[neversaynever]

I don't think it's a question of blocking PGD2 completely, it's about stopping it binding to a certain receptor, the receptor that OC000459 targets, so you won't be affecting its positive effects on hair cycling.

But that doesnt deal with the fact there is excessive PGD2 around balding follicles. So maybe itll help early to moderate baldness. In which case, discussions should halt until people start trying it.

There is too much missing pieces to know how long HSC would last. Too be honest, if the price is right, if one HSC treatment buys you at least 2 years...id be happy.

And they are getting great results, better than anything we've ever seen in hair loss treatments, so I find it hard to be negative about them.

[neversaynever]

But that doesnt deal with the fact there is excessive PGD2 around balding follicles. So maybe itll help early to moderate baldness. In which case, discussions should halt until people start trying it.

There is too much missing pieces to know how long HSC would last. Too be honest, if the price is right, if one HSC treatment buys you at least 2 years...id be happy.

And they are getting great results, better than anything we've ever seen in hair loss treatments, so I find it hard to be negative about them.

Unless maybe its that binding to the receptor that causes the malfunction, and pgd2 is over expressed? That would indicate that blocking this receptor is the key!