Tocotrienol (vitamin E) may reverse male pattern baldness

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  • Maradona
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    definitely the propecia dude i got almost all the side effects stressedtobebald mentioned, he missed brain fog though but i recuperated well.

    lay off the propecia and see where that takes ya.

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  • StressedToTheBald
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    Variety of possible Propecia side effects:

    "Side effects of finasteride include impotence (1.1% to 18.5%), abnormal ejaculation (7.2%), decreased ejaculatory volume (0.9% to 2.8%), abnormal sexual function (2.5%), gynecomastia (2.2%), erectile dysfunction (1.3%), ejaculation disorder (1.2%) and testicular pain... The PPI also states that patients have reported persisting erectile dysfunction despite discontinuing the drug. In December 2010, Merck added depression as a side effect of finasteride.[6]"

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  • StressedToTheBald
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    Originally posted by Conpecia
    Propecia, Nizoral shampoo. Been on the Propecia for about 5 years. Nizoral about 4 months. Waiting for lab results from the doc.
    Please update us once the results are out, my bet would be on propecia..

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  • Conpecia
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    Propecia, Nizoral shampoo. Been on the Propecia for about 5 years. Nizoral about 4 months. Waiting for lab results from the doc.

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  • StressedToTheBald
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    Originally posted by Conpecia
    Unfortunately I've had some health issues the past couple weeks and have had to discontinue all treatments, including the tocomin, though it's very unlikely that the tocomin was causing anything. As soon as I'm feeling better I'll restart the 8 month experiment. Sorry to all who were waiting on results, but I've got to figure out what's going on with my health first. I'll update again once I'm cleared of all symptoms.
    What else was included in Your treatment besides tocomin ?

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  • Conpecia
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    I was using a different brand and yes there was that issue of it not being toco-8 but in the week or two I took it I definitely grew new hair on my chest and seemed to be getting bumps on my temples indicating that something was going on. I think the key factor is that the product should be tocomin suprabio and nothing else but again I may be wrong. One of the things I was testing for was to see if that was the case or if you actually needed toco 8 but alas I have to wait until I get healed up to have a definitive answer for you guys.

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  • 2020
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    conpecia, which toco vitamins were you using? If it's toco-sorb or anything that is NOT REAL PATENTED TOCO-8, you are wasting time...

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  • Conpecia
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    Unfortunately I've had some health issues the past couple weeks and have had to discontinue all treatments, including the tocomin, though it's very unlikely that the tocomin was causing anything. As soon as I'm feeling better I'll restart the 8 month experiment. Sorry to all who were waiting on results, but I've got to figure out what's going on with my health first. I'll update again once I'm cleared of all symptoms.

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  • clandestine
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    Conpecia; how goes it mate? Anything to report?

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  • Conpecia
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    Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
    Supposedly some doctors actually prescribe high doses of vitamin E to treat gynecomastia. Read the example here:
    Theres a thread by the same name as this over at gotfina.com. http://www.gotfina.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8357&perpage=20&pagenumber=1 Heres the original post : My buddy got gyno. He had a 3cm size pea in his nipple. It hurt like hell and was getting bigger so He went to the...


    So, I highly doubt that Your problem can be caused by vitamin E.
    You should check the other stuff, something else You're using might be causing it.
    Yeah I read that last night after I posted, so I doubt it could come from tocomin.

    I'm most likely overreacting. Again it's not like these pictures on google of guys walking around that should give Kramer and Frank Costanza a large investment, it's just a little more tissue than I remember having three months ago, even though I've lost weight. Most likely muscle mass lost. When you take stuff you become hypersensitive to any change in your body.

    I also was under the impression that propecia would cause man boobs right off the bat, not 6 years down the line.

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
    I might have found a link between high doses of vitamin E working as a blocker of androgen receptors in our hairs, I've posted here and would appreciate Your thoughts regarding the theory..
    http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=7432
    I'd like to believe that, but you're quoting this forum as your source...

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  • StressedToTheBald
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    I might have found a link between high doses of vitamin E working as a blocker of androgen receptors in our hairs, I've posted here and would appreciate Your thoughts regarding the theory..
    Here is some basics about DHT "Dihydrotestosterone (5α-Dihydrotestosterone, commonly abbreviated to DHT) is an androgen or male sex hormone. The enzyme 5α-reductase synthesises DHT in the prostate, testes, hair follicles, and adrenal glands. This enzyme reduces the 4,5 double-bond of the hormone testosterone. In

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  • StressedToTheBald
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    Supposedly some doctors actually prescribe high doses of vitamin E to treat gynecomastia. Read the example here:
    Theres a thread by the same name as this over at gotfina.com. http://www.gotfina.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8357&perpage=20&pagenumber=1 Heres the original post : My buddy got gyno. He had a 3cm size pea in his nipple. It hurt like hell and was getting bigger so He went to the...


    So, I highly doubt that Your problem can be caused by vitamin E.
    You should check the other stuff, something else You're using might be causing it.

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by Conpecia
    Guys, can this stuff cause gynecomastia?
    are you crazy?? this is just vitamin E.... 10000% that your new boobs are not from taking this vitamin

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  • Conpecia
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    Guys, can this stuff cause gynecomastia?

    All of a sudden I have a lot more "breast" tissue than I remember having. I'm a big guy, but I exercise regularly and have actually been losing weight, which is why I'm confused that my chest feels softer and looks less defined than it did a couple weeks ago. It could be that I'm losing muscle, and I'm also on finasteride which is known to cause gynecomastia in some people.

    If so, no dice. I value keeping my hair, but not at that price. Again, it could be that I'm just losing muscle mass. I don't really see how tocomin could cause man boobs, but a lot of you people are more versed in the science of these products than I am. I guess I'll start dieting and doing a lot of pushups and chest exercises and see what happens. But there is a noticeable difference. No tenderness or pain, just more fat or something. Jesus, what does it take to keep a head of hair...

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