Tocotrienol (vitamin E) may reverse male pattern baldness

[Kirby_]

Hows your toco programme going. I am expecting absolute zero results, I am a pessimist though. But just looking around the net on forums people only really say it grows hair faster.

Mine? Haven't given it a go yet. Honestly wouldn't mind trying it for thirty quid for two months' worth. Nothing to lose.

[Zoidberg]

I didn't think it tasted too bad, quite smooth and without too much flavour. I'm quite happy to tip a scoop in my mouth and wash it straight down.
Now if you have ever tried grape seed extract... that is some repugnant stuff!

[sausage]

As for taste....it's disgusting lol.

I saw your post after I tried it lol....

and yes it tastes like crap.

I did not want to try it on its own as I was pretty sure it would be nasty so chucked it in with some orange juice thinking it would just blend in but it just clumps up into small lumps and you can taste the hideous nastyness of it.

Think I need to find a better way of consuming this rancid crap.

[sausage]

Where are you sourcing this from in the UK mate?

I didn't really bother shopping around, there may be cheaper sources but I used a site called bestsupps.

I just had another quick search and they are all around that price wherever you look.

Hows your toco programme going. I am expecting absolute zero results, I am a pessimist though. But just looking around the net on forums people only really say it grows hair faster.

[jak385]

Woah! I was not expecting this Toco-8 stuff to be in such a small container.

£28 for that, these supplement stores + manufacturers must be making a killing.

Wonder what it tastes like?

Will be starting the stuff 2moro. To be honest I expect nothing. But hey ho.

Not sure if you've looked inside the container yet but there should be a little scoop in there that you use to take it, to make sure you take the right amount each time. I've took it 20 times now and have just over half left so it should last me close to the 2 months it stated in the descriptions, 7 weeks definitely I would say. Guess hopefully it's quality over quantity?

As for taste....it's disgusting lol. It's how I imagine it would taste and feel to try and eat talcum powder. I pour some water in my mouth first and then drop it in and swallow, stops it all getting stuck in your mouth and helps you avoid the taste a bit.

Just a heads up in case you read this before your first try

[Jcm800]

Today marks the one month mark for me on toco-8.

Any changes going on mate?

[clandestine]

Today marks the one month mark for me on toco-8.

[Kirby_]

Woah! I was not expecting this Toco-8 stuff to be in such a small container.

£28 for that, these supplement stores + manufacturers must be making a killing.

Wonder what it tastes like?

Will be starting the stuff 2moro. To be honest I expect nothing. But hey ho.

Where are you sourcing this from in the UK mate?

[clandestine]

You hear about people weight lifting who take 5AR inhibiters to prevent balding, but they also take aromatase inhibiters in order to lessen the effects of rising estradiol. So if you're taking finasteride and lifting heavy you may need to consider an A.I. as well.

Lift weights to look better if balding, balding if lift weights to look better. Life is compromise, no?

[sausage]

Woah! I was not expecting this Toco-8 stuff to be in such a small container.

£28 for that, these supplement stores + manufacturers must be making a killing.

Wonder what it tastes like?

Will be starting the stuff 2moro. To be honest I expect nothing. But hey ho.

[NotBelievingIt]

I don't really know how much testosterone levels affect hair loss, I have just read it can, maybe it depends on the person. I worked out in my uni years a lot but I would not say my hair loss accelerated at that time.

When you exercise your muscles, your body responds by producing more testosterone to build those muscles. This increase is then results in additional free testosterone that is, well, free to be bound to by 5AR and converted into DHT. Obviously the additional test is used for everything else in order to build muscle mass - but it won't just use all the excess its not possible. You hear about people weight lifting who take 5AR inhibiters to prevent balding, but they also take aromatase inhibiters in order to lessen the effects of rising estradiol. So if you're taking finasteride and lifting heavy you may need to consider an A.I. as well.

This is from the description of Toco-8: "Tocotrienols play an important role in increasing the "hormone production" signal from the brain to the testes, while also increasing the testes testosterone production capacity.".....

So this Toco stuff increases testosterone levels which can increase hair loss yet it is supposed to help improve you hair. :s confusion.

Because it acts on two levels. While the increase in test occurs, and its likely minimal overall, Vitamin E itself helps the scalp health and hair strength.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I don't really know how much testosterone levels affect hair loss, I have just read it can, maybe it depends on the person. I worked out in my uni years a lot but I would not say my hair loss accelerated at that time.

This is from the description of Toco-8: "Tocotrienols play an important role in increasing the "hormone production" signal from the brain to the testes, while also increasing the testes testosterone production capacity.".....

So this Toco stuff increases testosterone levels which can increase hair loss yet it is supposed to help improve you hair. :s confusion.

Hopefully Replicel will announce some positive results next month, we can only hope.

There is beta sterosol in it too.

[sausage]

When you work out doesn't test levels go up?

Yeah I feel the same way now, I am quite successful in my life, but with the onset of hairloss - although not severe, it feels like a race against time to get a mrs and settle down...before my looks fade. Otherwise I would happily be playing the field right now.

Even if my hairloss does not progress (touch wood), I have no idea knowing. Which is a horrible sit to be in.

The worst thing is, there are a lot of guys out there that do not have to worry about this at all..and yeah I guess they are generally happier.

I really hope histogen, replicel , or Aderans release some sort of a cure soon. Money is not a major issue. Just there is so much shit on the market to spend it on.

I don't really know how much testosterone levels affect hair loss, I have just read it can, maybe it depends on the person. I worked out in my uni years a lot but I would not say my hair loss accelerated at that time.

This is from the description of Toco-8: "Tocotrienols play an important role in increasing the "hormone production" signal from the brain to the testes, while also increasing the testes testosterone production capacity.".....

So this Toco stuff increases testosterone levels which can increase hair loss yet it is supposed to help improve you hair. :s confusion.

Hopefully Replicel will announce some positive results next month, we can only hope.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I am not sure weight training causes hair loss, I would not have thought so. Steroids are supposed to cause hair loss but I am not going near them.


Hair loss does suck really big hairy balls....

Completely ruined my life. I would be leading such an active, enjoyable, happy life with hair, but it's the opposite. I need to get a Mrs and settle down, but my confidence is so low I cannot get the strength to ask the ladies out. Next week I plan to finally do something about that and will be asking some sexy lady out. The sexy ladies are missing out on my girth and if I keep taking Propecia my girth could shrink.

When you work out doesn't test levels go up?

Yeah I feel the same way now, I am quite successful in my life, but with the onset of hairloss - although not severe, it feels like a race against time to get a mrs and settle down...before my looks fade. Otherwise I would happily be playing the field right now.

Even if my hairloss does not progress (touch wood), I have no idea knowing. Which is a horrible sit to be in.

The worst thing is, there are a lot of guys out there that do not have to worry about this at all..and yeah I guess they are generally happier.

I really hope histogen, replicel , or Aderans release some sort of a cure soon. Money is not a major issue. Just there is so much shit on the market to spend it on.

[sausage]

Just started; will be training 3 times a week. A bit paranoid about it to tell you the truth, I'm unclear on whether weight training causes hair loss. But at the same time, I need to work out , because I am too skinny.

Hairloss really sucks balls.

I am not sure weight training causes hair loss, I would not have thought so. Steroids are supposed to cause hair loss but I am not going near them.


Hair loss does suck really big hairy balls....

Completely ruined my life. I would be leading such an active, enjoyable, happy life with hair, but it's the opposite. I need to get a Mrs and settle down, but my confidence is so low I cannot get the strength to ask the ladies out. Next week I plan to finally do something about that and will be asking some sexy lady out. The sexy ladies are missing out on my girth and if I keep taking Propecia my girth could shrink.