Tocotrienol (vitamin E) may reverse male pattern baldness

[AgainstThis]

I'm interested in this.

And there's seriously not one guy with before/after toco pictures? In all the internet? Seriously?

[yeahyeahyeah]

Well, as it relates to my hair specifically only two things.

I started using TOWEL DRY THICKENING Shampoo every 1 or 2 days since December at the suggestion of the stylist.

I started taking Toco8 beginning of this month.

But other supplements I take are:
Daily 1200mg Fish Oil (sometimes twice/day)

Daily 1000IU Vitamin D

Daily Nutrilite Multivitamin

I've been taking the Nutrilite for probably 20 years, the Vitamin D since November? and the Fish Oil since mid-January.




I don't see why it wouldn't be. I can't imagine it would lessen the effectiveness. Might want to query Primordial Performance though see what they say.

Is your regime helping?

[NotBelievingIt]

what else is in your regimen?

Well, as it relates to my hair specifically only two things.

I started using TOWEL DRY THICKENING Shampoo every 1 or 2 days since December at the suggestion of the stylist.

I started taking Toco8 beginning of this month.

But other supplements I take are:
Daily 1200mg Fish Oil (sometimes twice/day)

Daily 1000IU Vitamin D

Daily Nutrilite Multivitamin

I've been taking the Nutrilite for probably 20 years, the Vitamin D since November? and the Fish Oil since mid-January.

I put toco in my protein shake, is this advisable?

I don't see why it wouldn't be. I can't imagine it would lessen the effectiveness. Might want to query Primordial Performance though see what they say.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I have been taking it for a week and have not noticed anything yet.

My hair, both beard and head is not growing faster which most people seem to say happens.

Early days though...



Also good to hear that it apparently decreases PGD2 levels.

I put toco in my protein shake, is this advisable?

[sausage]

I have been taking it for a week and have not noticed anything yet.

My hair, both beard and head is not growing faster which most people seem to say happens.

Early days though...



Also good to hear that it apparently decreases PGD2 levels.

[2020]

what else is in your regimen?

[NotBelievingIt]

Perhaps thats why it has worked for some folks to stave off the progression...those who have much higher levels of PGD2 get more benefit.
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Smallish update from me on my nearing one month use of toco8.

I got my hair cut on Feb 28th (started Toco8 Feb 29th) and plan to get it cut with the stylist every 6 weeks....but already I'm feeling it needs to be cut. Perhaps its just unwarranted enthusiasm but it does seem like my hair has grown faster and is somewhat thicker. Can't really say density wise. I also feel that my facial hair is growing faster too. I generally only shave every 3 days but lately it seems like 3 days is pushing it with what I feel comfortable sporting. I've done a terrible job of "tracking" the hair though...I'm doing what I can to minimize the thoughts about it. I've actually had a fantastic last 3-4 weeks and have not had any depressive periods. I joke more about it to myself in the mirror in the morning too, I suppose that helps We'll see when I get my hair cut if that attitude changes and the thinning becomes a bit more obvious.

I have noticed my scalp has stopped itching in the last couple weeks also. Prior to starting this I'd get random head itches throughout the day - but the last couple weeks its been no more then a normal head scratch. Only thing that has changed in my regimen is the addition of Toco8.

[2020]

another reason to take toco-8?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9223656

Supplementation with 1-10 microg/ml vitamin E succinate resulted in a significant (P < or = 0.05) decrease in PGD2 levels at vitamin concentrations of 3, 5, 7 and 10 microg/ml respectively...

and now this:

According to recent discovery by the researchers, it is said that Prostaglandin D2 is an abnormal amount of a protein in the bald scalp of men with male pattern baldness. In both human and animal models, a prostaglandin known as PGD2 and its derivative , 15-dPGJ 2, inhibit hair growth. The PGD2-related inhibition occurred through a receptor which is a therapeutic target for androgenetic alopecia in both men and women with hair loss and thinning.

[NotBelievingIt]

These supplements don't happen to contain Vitamin E succinate, do they?

Don't believe so, its just the plain vanilla 4 chains each of the pherols and trienols.

[Kirby_]

These supplements don't happen to contain Vitamin E succinate, do they?

[sausage]

no idea...

I got some free sample sachet of pre workout raspberry lemonade powder.

Weird stuff, tasted like raspberry sherbert mixed with paracetamol.

Just worked out. Feel knackered. 6x heavy weight rows on my multigym, gonna get hench.

Gotta get me one of those t shirts that says 'get hench or die trying'.

Or maybe one that says 'get hair or die trying'

[bananana]

Hi guys.

Just wondering about intake of tocotrienols and sunflower seeds (rich in tocopherol alpha see table number 2) - it should probably be in different times of day?
Since tocotrienols and tocopherol don't go well together in big quantities.
I started eating 20-50 grams (around 25 mg of tocopherol alpha) of sunflower seeds daily 3 weeks ago (they taste quite good ).

I'm still waiting on my toco from swanson - they had some issues with shipping apparently...

ps - I think the best method for assessing the results would be taking photos at baseline, 3 months and 6 months. Looking in the mirror every other day and expecting a miracle isn't fruitful.

[sausage]

I tried the tipping it in the mouth and swishing it down with water technique, its works better - less suffering.

[clandestine]

Personally, I enjoy the taste.

Any changes going on mate?

Tough to say, and likely not significant, as it's only been a month so far. I'll be sure to update, should I see anything interesting, though.

[sausage]

Mine? Haven't given it a go yet. Honestly wouldn't mind trying it for thirty quid for two months' worth. Nothing to lose.

Oh rite, furry muff.

Yeah worth a go. I am not expecting any results. Just splashing the cash everywhere on treatments at the moment and seeing if anything happens within 6-12 months. If my treatment programme at least reasonably improves the state of my hair I will be getting a HT.

This Toco-8 stuff is completely random, I very much doubt it will do anything for my hair, people say it makes hair grow faster so maybe with the use of Propecia hairs could improve quicker due to the faster growth of the hair.