Tocotrienol (vitamin E) may reverse male pattern baldness

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  • StressedToTheBald
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    • Jan 2012
    • 452

    I might have found a link between high doses of vitamin E working as a blocker of androgen receptors in our hairs, I've posted here and would appreciate Your thoughts regarding the theory..
    Here is some basics about DHT "Dihydrotestosterone (5α-Dihydrotestosterone, commonly abbreviated to DHT) is an androgen or male sex hormone. The enzyme 5α-reductase synthesises DHT in the prostate, testes, hair follicles, and adrenal glands. This enzyme reduces the 4,5 double-bond of the hormone testosterone. In

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    • 2020
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1513

      Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
      I might have found a link between high doses of vitamin E working as a blocker of androgen receptors in our hairs, I've posted here and would appreciate Your thoughts regarding the theory..
      http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=7432
      I'd like to believe that, but you're quoting this forum as your source...

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      • Conpecia
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        • Sep 2011
        • 904

        Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
        Supposedly some doctors actually prescribe high doses of vitamin E to treat gynecomastia. Read the example here:
        Theres a thread by the same name as this over at gotfina.com. http://www.gotfina.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8357&perpage=20&pagenumber=1 Heres the original post : My buddy got gyno. He had a 3cm size pea in his nipple. It hurt like hell and was getting bigger so He went to the...


        So, I highly doubt that Your problem can be caused by vitamin E.
        You should check the other stuff, something else You're using might be causing it.
        Yeah I read that last night after I posted, so I doubt it could come from tocomin.

        I'm most likely overreacting. Again it's not like these pictures on google of guys walking around that should give Kramer and Frank Costanza a large investment, it's just a little more tissue than I remember having three months ago, even though I've lost weight. Most likely muscle mass lost. When you take stuff you become hypersensitive to any change in your body.

        I also was under the impression that propecia would cause man boobs right off the bat, not 6 years down the line.

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        • clandestine
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 2002

          Conpecia; how goes it mate? Anything to report?

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          • Conpecia
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            • Sep 2011
            • 904

            Unfortunately I've had some health issues the past couple weeks and have had to discontinue all treatments, including the tocomin, though it's very unlikely that the tocomin was causing anything. As soon as I'm feeling better I'll restart the 8 month experiment. Sorry to all who were waiting on results, but I've got to figure out what's going on with my health first. I'll update again once I'm cleared of all symptoms.

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            • 2020
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              • Jan 2012
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              conpecia, which toco vitamins were you using? If it's toco-sorb or anything that is NOT REAL PATENTED TOCO-8, you are wasting time...

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              • Conpecia
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                • Sep 2011
                • 904

                I was using a different brand and yes there was that issue of it not being toco-8 but in the week or two I took it I definitely grew new hair on my chest and seemed to be getting bumps on my temples indicating that something was going on. I think the key factor is that the product should be tocomin suprabio and nothing else but again I may be wrong. One of the things I was testing for was to see if that was the case or if you actually needed toco 8 but alas I have to wait until I get healed up to have a definitive answer for you guys.

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                • StressedToTheBald
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                  • Jan 2012
                  • 452

                  Originally posted by Conpecia
                  Unfortunately I've had some health issues the past couple weeks and have had to discontinue all treatments, including the tocomin, though it's very unlikely that the tocomin was causing anything. As soon as I'm feeling better I'll restart the 8 month experiment. Sorry to all who were waiting on results, but I've got to figure out what's going on with my health first. I'll update again once I'm cleared of all symptoms.
                  What else was included in Your treatment besides tocomin ?

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                  • Conpecia
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                    • Sep 2011
                    • 904

                    Propecia, Nizoral shampoo. Been on the Propecia for about 5 years. Nizoral about 4 months. Waiting for lab results from the doc.

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                    • StressedToTheBald
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                      • Jan 2012
                      • 452

                      Originally posted by Conpecia
                      Propecia, Nizoral shampoo. Been on the Propecia for about 5 years. Nizoral about 4 months. Waiting for lab results from the doc.
                      Please update us once the results are out, my bet would be on propecia..

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                      • StressedToTheBald
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                        • Jan 2012
                        • 452

                        Variety of possible Propecia side effects:

                        "Side effects of finasteride include impotence (1.1% to 18.5%), abnormal ejaculation (7.2%), decreased ejaculatory volume (0.9% to 2.8%), abnormal sexual function (2.5%), gynecomastia (2.2%), erectile dysfunction (1.3%), ejaculation disorder (1.2%) and testicular pain... The PPI also states that patients have reported persisting erectile dysfunction despite discontinuing the drug. In December 2010, Merck added depression as a side effect of finasteride.[6]"

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                        • Maradona
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                          • Nov 2011
                          • 822

                          definitely the propecia dude i got almost all the side effects stressedtobebald mentioned, he missed brain fog though but i recuperated well.

                          lay off the propecia and see where that takes ya.

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                          • 2020
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 1513

                            Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
                            Variety of possible Propecia side effects:

                            "Side effects of finasteride include impotence (1.1% to 18.5%), abnormal ejaculation (7.2%), decreased ejaculatory volume (0.9% to 2.8%), abnormal sexual function (2.5%), gynecomastia (2.2%), erectile dysfunction (1.3%), ejaculation disorder (1.2%) and testicular pain... The PPI also states that patients have reported persisting erectile dysfunction despite discontinuing the drug. In December 2010, Merck added depression as a side effect of finasteride.[6]"
                            why do you go around scaring people about taking propecia....I already explained to you the reason some people get "persisting" effects.

                            Propecia is a safe drug. Can you name another PRESCRIPTION drug with less side effects?

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                            • AgainstThis
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                              • Jan 2011
                              • 461

                              Yeah, it's safe, that's why they took propecia.com down and are losing lawsuits left and right.

                              Get with the program Harrisson. Propecia was cool back when it was launched as the MIRACLE PILL but the cat was out of the bag soon enough.

                              It makes no sense that people in 2012 are still on that man-poison.

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                              • clandestine
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 2002

                                Originally posted by AgainstThis
                                Yeah, it's safe, that's why they took propecia.com down and are losing lawsuits left and right.

                                Get with the program Harrisson. Propecia was cool back when it was launched as the MIRACLE PILL but the cat was out of the bag soon enough.

                                It makes no sense that people in 2012 are still on that man-poison.
                                Propecia is rather helpful for those who don't have incidence of sides actually.

                                But let's keep the discussion oriented towards tocotrienols. I've ordered some in hopes of testing efficacy. I will start taking daily as soon as they arrive.

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