Tocotrienol (vitamin E) may reverse male pattern baldness

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  • 2020
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1513

    Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
    Studies have been done showing that neither saw palmetto nor beta sitosterol induce serious or permanent effects as does propecia.
    same was done with propecia... in all of those studies, NO ONE got PERSISTENT side effects...

    Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
    I have used saw palmetto in tea form, now I'm using it in tablet form, and I'm perfectly fine. Same goes for beta sitosterol, no problems whatsoever !
    yes, and I've been using fin for quite some time and have zero problems as well...

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    • gutted
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 1397

      Originally posted by 2020
      same was done with propecia... in all of those studies, NO ONE got PERSISTENT side effects...



      yes, and I've been using fin for quite some time and have zero problems as well...
      side effects from both beta sis and propecia are ONLY noticed when discontinued after years of usage. The latter, propecia, more prononouced side effects occur.

      Most people on propecia will "ride out" the sides and in the majority, the sides do go away due to hyperandrogeneicity taking place, testosterone is increased (libido is enhaced etc) and thus, they presume they are side effect free. But once they stop propecia they will notice these said side effects.

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      • StressedToTheBald
        Inactive
        • Jan 2012
        • 452

        Originally posted by gutted
        side effects from both beta sis and propecia are ONLY noticed when discontinued after years of usage. The latter, propecia, more prononouced side effects occur.

        Most people on propecia will "ride out" the sides and in the majority, the sides do go away due to hyperandrogeneicity taking place, testosterone is increased (libido is enhaced etc) and thus, they presume they are side effect free. But once they stop propecia they will notice these said side effects.
        Yeah, and all people who eat plenty of avocados end up impotent after they stop... Do not compare beta sitosterol and propecia in a way thats utterly inappropriate...

        Beta sitosterol is safe.
        Propecia is a hazardous drug that will soon be banned.

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        • 2020
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 1513

          Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
          Propecia is a hazardous drug that will soon be banned.
          There has been at least THREE LONG TERM studies with THOUSANDS OF SUBJECTS and only a tiny minority of them got side effects which went away after dropping fin....
          If propecia was a hazardous drug, more people would have got PERMANENT side effects but so far no one did.
          THOSE ARE THE FACTS.

          ****s sake, i'm either arguing with a troll or a retarded person

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          • Winston
            Moderator
            • Mar 2009
            • 929

            Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
            Yeah, and all people who eat plenty of avocados end up impotent after they stop... Do not compare beta sitosterol and propecia in a way thats utterly inappropriate...

            Beta sitosterol is safe.
            Propecia is a hazardous drug that will soon be banned.
            It has long been established that Beta-sitosteral can cause loss of libido and impotence in some men who use the compound. Please get your facts straight and stop spreading misinformation on this forum!

            Just like Propecia, Beta-sitosterol is LIKELY SAFE for most people when taken by mouth, however some men can not tolerate it.

            Since these dietary supplements are not regulated by the FDA it is possible that they are far more dangerous to experiment with than a regulated product.



            Can you please keep your uneducated opinions to a single thread on this forum? You are spamming every thread and it's unfair to people trying find accurate information.

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            • gutted
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1397

              Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
              Yeah, and all people who eat plenty of avocados end up impotent after they stop... Do not compare beta sitosterol and propecia in a way thats utterly inappropriate...

              Beta sitosterol is safe.
              Propecia is a hazardous drug that will soon be banned.
              what i meant to say was that beta sis/saw pal does affect the body in the same way propecia does, hence why in high, consistent doeses of beta sis this can have the same affect as propecia does. Im talking from personal experience.
              i agree with you, propecia is much much more potent, to replicate the potency of propecia would require quite a considerable amount of beta sis.
              A small amount, here and there, WILL NOT affect you. But CONSISTENT high amounts WILL affect you.

              The fact remians though, everyone is different, they have different tolerance levels to the amount that will affect them.

              I do believe ALOT of people take propecia thinking they're not being affected in anyway, (at the early stages of propecia use, in some people it causes an INCREASE in SEX DRIVE, Stronger erections, hence why they believe there not being affected in that department etc) but once they stop after years of use, when the body tries to return to normal, in some people, it wont be able to.

              Theres some info that i read, about fin/propecia being used to treat prostate cancer, and in some of the cancer cases, the drug stops working for some individuals and the cancer progresses.

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              • NotBelievingIt
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 594

                Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
                Propecia is a hazardous drug that will soon be banned.
                Gonna have to disagree with you on that.

                While the side effects may be permanent in some, for reasons we do not know, that does not mean it will be banned.

                Chemotherapy is deadly to some people also, but its still used.

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                • 2020
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1513

                  Originally posted by NotBelievingIt
                  Gonna have to disagree with you on that.

                  While the side effects may be permanent in some, for reasons we do not know, that does not mean it will be banned.

                  Chemotherapy is deadly to some people also, but its still used.
                  seriously.... do you know how many PRESCRIPTION ONLY drugs have caused deaths and yet they're still on the market??
                  Propecia will never be banned, you are wasting your time.

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                  • NotBelievingIt
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 594

                    Originally posted by 2020
                    seriously.... do you know how many PRESCRIPTION ONLY drugs have caused deaths and yet they're still on the market??
                    Propecia will never be banned, you are wasting your time.
                    Focus your quoting on the person who said it would be banned. I agree with you, it won't be banned. But that doesn't mean it won't come with much more serious side effect labeling.

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                    • bananana
                      Inactive
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 524

                      OMG guys.
                      I just had to register to tell you - STICK TO THE SUBJECT!
                      Jesus, you're arguing on propecia on tocotrienol topic!

                      This is a rare great topic on a product that is potentially beneficial,
                      and pretty unknown - please dont screw it up with some small talk,
                      you have propecia subject - go argue there.

                      This is a TOCO ONLY subject and we come here to seek relevant info,
                      and progress updates from users.
                      NOT to browse through 21 page of your giberish, dissing each other etc.

                      PLEASE - KEEP THIS TOPIC CLEAN!

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                      • AgainstThis
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 461

                        I'm getting started on Tocotrienols next month and I promise I'll keep you fully updated. I'm taking the exact same compound they were giving the people in the study someone mentioned before and no it doesn't *ABSOLUTELY* have to be Toco-8

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                        • clandestine
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 2002

                          Originally posted by bananana
                          OMG guys.
                          I just had to register to tell you - STICK TO THE SUBJECT!
                          Jesus, you're arguing on propecia on tocotrienol topic!

                          This is a rare great topic on a product that is potentially beneficial,
                          and pretty unknown - please dont screw it up with some small talk,
                          you have propecia subject - go argue there.

                          This is a TOCO ONLY subject and we come here to seek relevant info,
                          and progress updates from users.
                          NOT to browse through 21 page of your giberish, dissing each other etc.

                          PLEASE - KEEP THIS TOPIC CLEAN!
                          Thanks brah. People often seem to delve into some propecia related discussion any time it's mentioned around here.

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                          • Winston
                            Moderator
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 929

                            Originally posted by bananana
                            OMG guys.
                            I just had to register to tell you - STICK TO THE SUBJECT!
                            Jesus, you're arguing on propecia on tocotrienol topic!

                            This is a rare great topic on a product that is potentially beneficial,
                            and pretty unknown - please dont screw it up with some small talk,
                            you have propecia subject - go argue there.

                            This is a TOCO ONLY subject and we come here to seek relevant info,
                            and progress updates from users.
                            NOT to browse through 21 page of your giberish, dissing each other etc.

                            PLEASE - KEEP THIS TOPIC CLEAN!
                            The problem is that stressedtobebald is derailing every thread on this forum with his rhetoric. I wish he would just keep it to a single thread! It’s so disruptive to the entire forum.

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                            • bananana
                              Inactive
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 524

                              I appreciate this guys.

                              But I know the deal - I read the whole 21 pages. Lets just try to stick to the subject, dont add more fuel to pointless flaming and trolling on thread-unrelated stuff.

                              I've been on various forums since 2001; and I know what it can turn to if admins
                              dont keep order.

                              Anyways, I'm looking forward to reading more experiences on tocotrienol and any related info.

                              Also I'm looking for the best "bang for the buck" supplier that delivers to southeastern europe. I'm thinking about ordering from US, but the shipping is kinda high (~$30).

                              Thanks to everyone and lets keep this forum a good source of quality info.

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                              • 2020
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 1513

                                Originally posted by AgainstThis
                                I'm getting started on Tocotrienols next month and I promise I'll keep you fully updated. I'm taking the exact same compound they were giving the people in the study someone mentioned before and no it doesn't *ABSOLUTELY* have to be Toco-8
                                It ABSOLUTELY has to be Toco-8.... that's what I'm been trying to tell you all this time.
                                Compare the ingredients and you will see that toco-sorb and all those other toco variations differ from toco-8.

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