Is HASCI for real?

[Kiwi]

**** sake, you can't get any balder than me and I have posted about 4 or 5 pics so far including before pics.

I am only 9 weeks post Gho treatment so if your patient then we will all see. Not sure what else you want!

To the guy that said he can only see 70 hairs in the recipient area on my photo, how many are you expecting to see 8 weeks after the transplant? What is the norm %? Is it 50%? I thought it was meant to be almost 0%.

Someone please clarify.

As an unhappy veteran I'd say you can expect to see things growing around 3 - 4 months. Maybe 5 months. Then its all go go go from there.

Also sorry if you thought I was attacking you in anyway. I'm not. I just don't think its unreasonable for people to demand shit loads of images.

How many grafts did you get done. Do you have a straight after operation image that we can see?

[gc83uk]

Thanks - Good to hear. So why would people be suggesting that there isn't much growing in the recipient when they know its an 8 week photo?

Are they misinformed? What % of the grafts/hairs usually fall out after the transplant in the recip area? Just an avg figure if anyone knows. Thanks

[RichardDawkins]

No gc its typical Gho hate.

Hey when i said people that scarring alopecia is much more sever then normal balding they attacked me as a Gho shill, another reason why i quit hair site.

Its ridicolous one guy with a full bald plate goes to Gho gets HSI done, has sprouting 2 hair grafts and gets attacked, and people come up with the sam old antics........ good lord

Btw if you like you can present your fotos also on our blog at least there people dont come up with strange antics.

And you are right uk you cant get any balder then you especially with scarring alopecia ah who am i talking to, i think when you got your bald spot fixed in some years, people will find a hair in the soup even if we would cut your vertex away like a scalp to analyse it

[BMT]

Nothing to do with Gho hate, we'd all love to see this work. But this isn't a black and white case at the moment.

And its nothing against anybody who has had this procedure done, i for one am very thankful we are getting this insight now and please keep it coming

But we all have to do our own due diligence, and thats what the forum is here for. We all need different standards of proof. Can't we do it in the spirit of open minded exchange and questioning?

As yet, we have not seen one NW 6 with anything resembling a full head of hair yet - but we have seen promising signs. As this procedure has been around for awhile, i gently asking why that would be?

Also, as i brought up in a previous post, id like to see more examples of Gho's artistry as a hair transplant surgeon, even if he can regenerate the donor.

Anyway im keeping an open mind to this and there are good signs but for many its not a home run yet.

Looking forward to more examples of Gho's work also the results from replicel and co next year.

[Kampung101]

Yeah I've got nothing against Gho either. I believe he seriously believes that his procedure is getting the results he claims its getting (I don't think hes trying to scam anyone).

My only concern is that it doesn't seem like hes doing a controlled, double-blinded experiment to see if the results hes getting are actually from the procedure itself, and that other possible variables are ruled out that could be contributing to the results. If he hasn't been doing a controlled study, then the chances of variables other than the procedure contributing to these results go up significantly. But then again, FUT and FUE didn't arise from a rigorous experimental study either.

Anyways, hopefully we get to see some more results from this into 2012 (thats going to be an interesting year for the balding community to say the least).

[didi]

When you say fully booked till Nov 2012...you mean all 4-5 clinics or just London clinic?

There is demand thats for sure, good sign. No one complained so far.

Wouldnt it be plausible to assume that hasci clinics will start to pop up throughout US and Asia in 2012?

If i knew that technology works 100% I would bring it to Australia and open clinic just opossite Dr Woods ..and I'd put up a big sign saying 'Hair Multiplication available here'
Would that piss him off?

Bet you everyone that goes to him would come to me and FUE would go to history.
Think big part of the reason why current top HT surgeons bad mouth DR Gho is they know he is a big threat to their business,but sooner or later its bound to happen.

[Kiwi]

I'm not a Gho hater either.

I like that you mentioned due diligence. It is a lot of money for anybody to spend!! To be honest, guys like Spex have some of the best HTs out (in terms of density) and they had strip surgeries.

Once I see as many photos for any Gho patient that come close to matching that of a Strip procedure I'm not going to do it. It is that simple - if I was a millionaire though. I'd probably just take the chance and do it right now as I've got nothing to loose.

I am a total strip hater, I've had 2 strips done and I think my results are poor compared to the likes of Spex. I'm left thinking of getting my scars fixed with FUE then shaving my head down to a 1... at least until a better option comes about.

Heck I'm even open to getting this done by Gho - its just that it'd be quite expensive since I live in NZ.

Richard. Do you think that Gho's procedure would be a good one for scar hiding?

[NeedHairASAP]

Richard. Do you think that Gho's procedure would be a good one for scar hiding?

i dont think you find a better procedure. gho has worked mostly with burn victims.





page 4 of gho's paper..... those are lots of red holes with hairs sprouting out.....please tell me what else it could be? doctored? It's either photoshopped or.... he regenerated hair out of fue holes



also... gc has clearly gotten regrowth



if the hair regenerates, it regenerates. I don't need to wait around for somebody else to get a full head of hair.

[NeedHairASAP]

a repost from another site...




"I posted a study multiple times on this forum where doctors at a HT clinic used Gho's old FM extraction procedure of leaving intact lower thirds in the donor skin. 72% of the extracted donor site follicles regrew with the resulting hair as thick and healthy looking as the original pre-extracted hair. However, the transplanted recipient hairs did not grow well because the clinicians soaked them in saline solution instead of HM-growth factors.

For the umpteenth millionth time. Regrowing the donor site is not a big deal. The key is in getting the partially extracted follicles to grow properly in the recipient site. This requires specialized knowledge that very few hair transplant doctors have acquired and is in the domain of research scientists.

More arguing and bickering about whether or not Gho's new HST procedure results in donor regrowth is not helpful at all. The only helpful thing at this point is for people to undergo the procedure and meticulously document the results. I would be more than happy to help anyone who is about to undergo this procedure with details about how to prove or disprove donor regrowth.

If we have people who are undergoing the procedure anyways, why not take a scientific approach which will benefit all balding men all over the world.

JB "



A few people here have mentioned they are getting the surgery. Can we set them up with jamesbond?

[RichardDawkins]

HST was invented for burning victims (scars) in the first place so yes it can be used and should be used if you had prior transplants. But i have to say before i would go and hide m scars, i would rather fill in the rest or restore more hair on my head instead

[VictimOfDHT]

a repost from another site...




"I posted a study multiple times on this forum where doctors at a HT clinic used Gho's old FM extraction procedure of leaving intact lower thirds in the donor skin. 72% of the extracted donor site follicles regrew with the resulting hair as thick and healthy looking as the original pre-extracted hair. However, the transplanted recipient hairs did not grow well because the clinicians soaked them in saline solution instead of HM-growth factors.

For the umpteenth millionth time. Regrowing the donor site is not a big deal. The key is in getting the partially extracted follicles to grow properly in the recipient site. This requires specialized knowledge that very few hair transplant doctors have acquired and is in the domain of research scientists.

More arguing and bickering about whether or not Gho's new HST procedure results in donor regrowth is not helpful at all. The only helpful thing at this point is for people to undergo the procedure and meticulously document the results. I would be more than happy to help anyone who is about to undergo this procedure with details about how to prove or disprove donor regrowth.

If we have people who are undergoing the procedure anyways, why not take a scientific approach which will benefit all balding men all over the world.

JB "



A few people here have mentioned they are getting the surgery. Can we set them up with jamesbond?

I think Gho's in my future. I just had a biopsy done to try and figure out why I'm losing my transplanted hair. I should get the result in a couple of weeks. I think regardless of the result and even if I know that any future transplants will die too I will get another HT, this time most likely by Gho as a traditional FUT is not an option any more. It's either an FUE or HST -which is most likely. If I go with Gho I'll let you guys know how things turn out. One of us has to do this so we have an answer to this whole debate.

[CVAZBAR]

You guys think Gho has most of his patients on medication? I'm guessing you would still have to take that crap right (Fin, Dut)?

[RichardDawkins]

Nope they are nor. For example sporticians arent allowed to use such stuff.

And the patients i talked to didnt even know about it nor did Gho encourage them to use it

[CVAZBAR]

Why wouldn't he prescribe it though? It's proven that you get better results in the recipient area since it strengthens your donor. I mean, wouldn't it be the same as a traditional HT? How else would you halt progression? No matter how good your donor is, it will eventually thin with time. Some worse than others. The only difference would be that Gho might be regenerating donor.

We need something other than just expanded donor to combat or halt progression. Maybe Histogen? Maybe Follica or Replicel? I don't know!

[Kiwi]

Why wouldn't he prescribe it though? It's proven that you get better results in the recipient area since it strengthens your donor. I mean, wouldn't it be the same as a traditional HT? How else would you halt progression? No matter how good your donor is, it will eventually thin with time. Some worse than others. The only difference would be that Gho might be regenerating donor.

We need something other than just expanded donor to combat or halt progression. Maybe Histogen? Maybe Follica or Replicel? I don't know!

Actually it depends on your genetics. Not everybody is destined to be NW7....