Is HASCI for real?

[sanook]

Thanks gc83uk! Looking good dude

[NeedHairASAP]

Name: IronMan on Jan 23, 2012
Comments: Sep 2002 – Dr. Bernstein concerning Dr. Woods’ “FUE“: ************************* “If Dr. Woods' procedure were "the best transplantation system in the world" as he claims, myself and many other physicians would take great pains to learn it.” “Speaking on behalf of Physicians in the ISHRS, and as a Contributing Editor of Dermatologic Surgery, I welcome any physician possessing special skills or techniques to share them with the scientific community at large, so every patient may benefit from this knowledge. Sincerely, Dr. Bernstein” ************************* So, where are the “great pains to learn it” concerning Dr. Gho’s HST technique, so that “every patient may benefit from this knowledge”??

[Kiwi]

Name: IronMan on Jan 23, 2012
Comments: Sep 2002 – Dr. Bernstein concerning Dr. Woods’ “FUE“: ************************* “If Dr. Woods' procedure were "the best transplantation system in the world" as he claims, myself and many other physicians would take great pains to learn it.” “Speaking on behalf of Physicians in the ISHRS, and as a Contributing Editor of Dermatologic Surgery, I welcome any physician possessing special skills or techniques to share them with the scientific community at large, so every patient may benefit from this knowledge. Sincerely, Dr. Bernstein” ************************* So, where are the “great pains to learn it” concerning Dr. Gho’s HST technique, so that “every patient may benefit from this knowledge”??

Gho is selfish and I'm not convinced about him yet.

Whoever came up with FUE and FUT techniques shared it with the greater Hairloss community "freely" so that balding people should not suffer. Other HT docs picked it up because of this. If I'm wrong then why are we all getting 1990 style hair plugs...

Where the **** is Gho and why is he being a dick holding back on this techniques.

He charges $50K to teach his technique. Is the money he makes from HT surgery not enough for him? Does he need another house? Or another flash car?

I was an FUE surgeon and delivering good results why would I bother paying Gho $50K.... you wouldnt... you would not do it.

And unless they are mother terarsa why the **** should they. They are people making a living not charity cases.

Infact why don't you give your favorite HT surgeon $50K to go learn it. Plus flights and accommodation. I'll chip in $1000 right now.

[NeedHairASAP]

Gho is selfish and I'm not convinced about him yet.

Whoever came up with FUE and FUT techniques shared it with the greater Hairloss community "freely" so that balding people should not suffer. Other HT docs picked it up because of this. If I'm wrong then why are we all getting 1990 style hair plugs...

Where the **** is Gho and why is he being a dick holding back on this techniques.

He charges $50K to teach his technique. Is the money he makes from HT surgery not enough for him? Does he need another house? Or another flash car?

I was an FUE surgeon and delivering good results why would I bother paying Gho $50K.... you wouldnt... you would not do it.

And unless they are mother terarsa why the **** should they. They are people making a living not charity cases.

Infact why don't you give your favorite HT surgeon $50K to go learn it. Plus flights and accommodation. I'll chip in $1000 right now.

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how much money did Gho invest in researching and forming HST? how much time did he invest? what other activities could he have engaged in that would have had more immediate pay-offs than HST?

shouldn't he be able to be reimbursed for a decade of research without compensation?

[didi]

Lets wait and see how dean saunders ht turns out. If he completes his 3 hst treatments thts going to give him abt 5000 grafts and if he is able to razor shave his head with no white dots then im sold.
We need to be patient and wait. In meantime it would be great if people tht are going for hst to document procedure and share with us.

[Kiwi]

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how much money did Gho invest in researching and forming HST? how much time did he invest? what other activities could he have engaged in that would have had more immediate pay-offs than HST?

shouldn't he be able to be reimbursed for a decade of research without compensation?

Did I say he shouldnt be reimbursed?
No, no I didnt.

[NeedHairASAP]

Did I say he shouldnt be reimbursed?
No, no I didnt.

you implied that he should offer his technique and patents for everyone "freely"


implicitly you're saying the way he is currently trying to ensure that he is compensated or reimbursed is not right.


Gho doesn't even charge that much more than regular surgeons

[Kiwi]

you implied that he should offer his technique and patents for everyone "freely"


implicitly you're saying the way he is currently trying to ensure that he is compensated or reimbursed is not right.


Gho doesn't even charge that much more than regular surgeons

He charges about twice as much.

I do think he should freely share his technique so that the wider community can benefit.

I do think he makes enough money.

I am fundamentally opposed to patents and copyrights about medical breakthroughs. I think its inhumane - the worst is breakthoughs funded by your tax payers :P

[NeedHairASAP]

I am fundamentally opposed to patents and copyrights about medical breakthroughs. I think its inhumane - the worst is breakthoughs funded by your tax payers :P

do you think medical breakthroughs would happen as fast as they do without copyrights and patents?


I'd be surprised if Gho would have put the time in, if he wasn't able to copyright and patent any breakthroughs...

hoping that doctors (people) will dedicate their lives to research without any compensation is nuts

[Kiwi]

do you think medical breakthroughs would happen as fast as they do without copyrights and patents?


I'd be surprised if Gho would have put the time in, if he wasn't able to copyright and patent any breakthroughs...

hoping that doctors (people) will dedicate their lives to research without any compensation is nuts

1) Yes things would happen - probably quicker. If isaac newton had patented his discoveries we'd all be ****ed. Or if the internet was invented by Microsoft. God forbid. The greatest scientists of all did so because they love what they do. The ones only motivated by money will only do whatever they need to do until the money flows. Take for instance that piece of shit called propecia.

2) You surprise too easily.

3) Again you misappropriate me. Im not saying that doctors should not be reimbursed. That would be nuts.

I apply the same logic to ****wits that hold technology patents on green technologies at the expense of the planet. Governments that protect those ****ers are not rulers but rather ruled by wall street and things that glitter.

I forgive you though. You have a nieve young persons outlook on life...

[2020]

1) Yes things would happen - probably quicker. If isaac newton had patented his discoveries we'd all be ****ed. Or if the internet was invented by Microsoft. God forbid. The greatest scientists of all did so because they love what they do. The ones only motivated by money will only do whatever they need to do until the money flows. Take for instance that piece of shit called propecia.

sarcasm? If not, what do you have against propecia

[NeedHairASAP]

sarcasm? If not, what do you have against propecia

he's a country bumpkin from new zealand. Don't mind him.

[Kiwi]

he's a country bumpkin from new zealand. Don't mind him.

You do realize the guy that spit the atom was from NZ. The guy who refined the google search algorythem, yup he's from NZ, and russle crow... And fish and chips (the good ones).

Anyway im replying to the wrong guy.

Propecia didnt work for me and I stopped getting my beautiful morning erections. They are back now though.

These forums are full of conspiricy theorists and balding pimple poppers that think they understand or know more then everybody else, Im just here to keep it real

[clandestine]

These forums are full of conspiricy theorists and balding pimple poppers that think they understand or know more then everybody else, Im just here to keep it real

Classy.

Perhaps we could do away with all the hate around these forums. Try exerting some positivity in your life mate.

[Kiwi]

Classy.

Perhaps we could do away with all the hate around these forums. Try exerting some positivity in your life mate.

Its not hate man, its about trying to keep things in perspective for new members here. There are people here posting with almost fanatical prose. Replicel will somehow bypass all the rules of the FDA, Replicel already works (we have a cure!!!), histogen changed their site so it means they are dead, Gho is jesus for hair loss sufferers (minus the macro before and after shots), scientific research is flawed, and most recently an onslaught of people that suddeny have intimate knowledge of there share market and thus how well or not well Replicel is doing. and so on... And so on...

I guess I'm harsh because I know how painful it is to be let down here by false hopes and I want new readers to be informed as to who and what is speculation on this site. Hope is great and I hope all the time, but false hope is not cool because the let downs are worse.

No real harm meant by me though.