Is HASCI for real?

[Tracy C]

Okay, for the last time....everybody please listen...

We are listening. The evidence being offered is weak at best. The results do not look any better than the results of any other treatment. There is nothing about these photos that says "this works better". Sorry, but it is what it is.

Reading papers is not going to do it. Hard evidence would be in the form of before and after photos, including post op photos one, two and three years after treatment. No one is offering that. All you are saying is "read the papers". Those papers mean nothing without before and after photos and post op photos one, two and three years after treatment.

I'm sorry, Dr. Gho has to do better if he needs to convince anyone to adopt his treatment protocol.

[Follicle Death Row]

Surely if they could produce such a photographic result that we're all looking for then Gho would produce it to convince us. Makes me wonder.

[Sogeking]

Yup we need a lot of photographic evidence. And to be honest if Ghos method works there is no hurry. Since he is using the donor region which is DHT resistant. We all have time, the next move is on Gho. And if it does work I do hope it becomes cheaper.
If any of the future treatments work they will most surely be cheaper then multiple HSI sessions with Gho... However it is always nice to have a backup.

So I'm waiting guys. That is the only thing most of us here do 'cos we ain't got no choice. Let us hope its worth it...

[RichardDawkins]

Well then you have to stick with Armani pictures where before and after pictues differ in position, light and sharpness.

Also results are important but the essential thing "If it works" is more important because when the essential thing works, you dont have problems.

And i think Wesley Sneijder is pretty damn convincing, he waars his hairs short und stressfull situations and it looks good, he is a NW5 patient thats for sure.

What you do right now Tracy is actually slowing down the progress, because instead of saying "Give it a shot and others should adopt it" you feel that its ok for clinics to offer FUT and scalp tattoos over going another route.

I can guarantee you that this kind of attitude will pretty much bite your sugar ass in the future :-)

Right now at this moment i would only focus on HST/HSI and HM in general if i dont wanna wake up in the future and shout out loud " **** ME and MY LIFE"

Because all those "lucky" patients today who went to a FUT butcher for example, will have some serious problems in the future.

The evidence is not weak at best, the evidence is actually one of the corner stones of all HM researching companies like Replicel, Histogen etc, so you say that their protocolls are also weak at best?

Nothing works better? Sorry but if you take a look at the scientific papers and also look at the dossiers of diferent patients you would clearly see its the opposite.

Anyway, you say its not better, but how come that downtime with HST/HSI is even lesser then with FUE, so it is superior to FUE, if we dont pay attention to donor regeneration.

And some docs dismiss this, for me its a clear example of CASE CLOSED because i am right.

If i had 50k and a clinic, i would adopt this techniue for two simple reasons
1) if it would be a scam, m rep would go up and my trust from patients therefore more patients

2) If this works i would have a money printing machine on hand, especially when i would offer my HST for lesser dollars per Graft then your average FUE doc therefore i could also expand and train oder surgeons as well for 50k or less

But a lot of surgeons are like Rassman, dont invest anything but rather butcher em.

Anyway i believe in Gho, so its not my problem, you gotta do what you gotta do :-)

[Tracy C]

What you do right now Tracy is actually slowing down the progress, because instead of saying "Give it a shot and others should adopt it" you feel that its ok for clinics to offer FUT and scalp tattoos over going another route.

Now you have put words into my mouth. That is extraordinarily unethical. You just lost any credibility you might have had.

[Sogeking]

I've just seen Nov 5th photos of gc83uk on the other site.
He posted the picture of his grafts, not of his donor region. I am aware that he has scaring alopecia so maybe not all of the grafts will take. ALthough of the 700 grafts he got implented there is barely 70 of them growing. I guess we will see in next 2-3 months...

@needhairasap
I see you are going for a consultation with Gho? Is that true?

[RichardDawkins]

Maybe its unethical for you, i have to live with that, you asked for patients and i presented hem o you.

You said you are not convinced and therefore other clinics should not go this route or ou can understand that nobody wants to invest in this.

And i say you are wrong, i dont even know if you are really female or not so what, i speak my mind like i always do, and if you insist on ignoring the science papers then you are good to go.

To be honest if i have to shave my head from time to time to get hair back, i would gladly do it, also at other clinics your head is also shaved

Also if you would have taken a closer look at Ghos website (what you obviously didnt do at all) you would have seen that they shave only small areas on females that their longer hair can easily cover it, so to be on par her, i think that you are also a paid person with an Anti Gho agenda.

You have all the typical references for this

1) ignoring papers
2) put yourself on auto pilot when it comes to celebrities
3) dont even take a look at the website
4) ignoring donor macro fotographs and accuse him of not working while on the other hand you simply dont demand donor pctures from other clinics, which you wont even get.

Can you tell me one clinic ith donor pictures that close to document? Nope i guessed so

5) Ignoring the fact that patients seem to be happs about their transplant with Gho and getting another one done a ear or nine months after

6) The fact that they in a european countr guarantee donor regeneration of at least 80%

Personally i dont even think that you are female, bcause you made the mistake "That is extraordinarily unethical. You just lost any credibility you might have had. "

Thats your quote, those quotes underline this. As far as i know my credibility is not to discuss here, i think you stressed this out to get other people away from this discussion.

But in other words and i say this very confident " Dont act like a lunatic or a psycho"

We try to answer your uestions and you are so unthankful and agressive

[didi]

There are 12 000 members on this forum, all we need is 1 NW6 to go to HSCI clinic and get it done, take a lot of pix, how hard can it be,

Slick bald NW6 is the best in my opinion as it will be easy to see growth of 2000 grafts and that can be compared to traditional FUE.

Donor area can be shaved 9 months after and there should be no visible white dots and area shd be regenerated at least 80%.

There is no point fighting, we all want to see it work, no doubt about that.

ANY NW6 WILLING TO GIVE IT A GHO?

[RichardDawkins]

Hey maybe Spencer could start a Voice Run where he asked one to do it

[didi]

Spencer as a spiritual leader of bald movement should get it done himself and forget abt combover and no need to paint bald spot OR pay some NW6 to go to HASCI and document everything with hi quality pics.

If it works awsome, we won the battle; if it doesnt its guaranteed so he should get money back and Gho will be humiliated and possibly send him bankrupt

[RichardDawkins]

then call spencer

[Kiwi]

There are 12 000 members on this forum, all we need is 1 NW6 to go to HSCI clinic and get it done, take a lot of pix, how hard can it be,

Slick bald NW6 is the best in my opinion as it will be easy to see growth of 2000 grafts and that can be compared to traditional FUE.

Donor area can be shaved 9 months after and there should be no visible white dots and area shd be regenerated at least 80%.

There is no point fighting, we all want to see it work, no doubt about that.

ANY NW6 WILLING TO GIVE IT A GHO?

I agree.... Also if he's fully booked until Nov 2012 then by then we shouls be seeing lots more 2011 results in the interim.

And **** off scisorboy who isnt even bald!

[BMT]

Guys -

Fill me in on this,

From what i can tell, Gho has been doing this since 2004 - doner regeneration. Im sure he has refined his technique. But where are all the 100's of patients that have had this done?

[Kiwi]

Guys -

Fill me in on this,

From what i can tell, Gho has been doing this since 2004 - doner regeneration. Im sure he has refined his technique. But where are all the 100's of patients that have had this done?

If people bring up the "privacy" argument its bullshit.

There are thousands of people posting anonymous pics all over the internet and I believe that people who've been through the trauma of HT and hair loss genuinely want to help people and share their results.

I have a high profile job but I still have anonymous pictures on the hair transplant network dot com / blog website.

Either way. This year needs to be the year that Gho shows us the Macro's (macro photos are common now) or we just have to accept he's just another HT doc that uses smaller punches.

[gc83uk]

**** sake, you can't get any balder than me and I have posted about 4 or 5 pics so far including before pics.

I am only 9 weeks post Gho treatment so if your patient then we will all see. Not sure what else you want!

To the guy that said he can only see 70 hairs in the recipient area on my photo, how many are you expecting to see 8 weeks after the transplant? What is the norm %? Is it 50%? I thought it was meant to be almost 0%.

Someone please clarify.