Is HASCI for real?

[RichardDawkins]

The picture or the link is in one of my latest postings here

And nope Tracy i dont wanna convice you either, its up to anyone else hatshe or he does or wanna do.

At least in my world, i dont wanna have a linear scar at the back of my head, nor do i wannahave shotgun holes or punch grafts, but thats just my preference.

If i had to stick with one doc right now besides Gho,it would be Cole or Cooley but only if he can guarantee me someting with his plucked hairs cause i dont wanna FUT.

And thats it, pretty damn sad for a business where those three docs only make less then 1% of all hair transplant surgeons worldwide.

As long as people rush to get FUT, we wont see a change. But at least people are more demanding FUE over FUT, this is at least a good start

[NeedHairASAP]

There in lies the problem. A lot of talk, but only a couple of "after" photos. Some references to a handful of "celebrities" I've never heard of, but no "before and after photos".



I now understand why doctors in the U.S. are not in a big hurry to write out a very big check to Dr. Gho to learn his technique.

please stop with the jabs at these people not being celebrity enough for you. One guy won the european american idol, another the tour de france, and one is literally a world famous soccer player known in almost every country but the united states.

Do you really expect to have "heard of" any dutch celebrities? Do you think the dutch don't have celebrities? Dutch celebrities are a myth? I really don't get it.

Also, nobody on this forum cares about convincing you of Gho. There are several photos on his website that are not stunning, but they are also no 6,000 graft cases. Most of the before after photos are people who have had less than 2,000 grafts. Also, He has close up photos of regeneration in his latest peer reviewed paper (page 4)... its on his website under scientific publications, along with four or five papers that show the scientific progression of the HST method.

and lastly, you're right, doctors are not in a rush. I'm wondering if it's 50,000 dollars upfront, or 50,000 for a franchise license... where you pay annual franchise fees etc.-- this could also be whats slowing the spread of HST down.


personally, I like that Gho does small sessions. The idea behind it makes perfect sense. Getting 6000 holes punched in the back of your scalp and then 6000 in the front of your scalp is traumatic and I believe him that small sessions really do make a difference in yield, recovery, and regeneration. It sounds like common sense... I trust Gho who helps burn victims over rassman who.... gives scalp tatoos

[NeedHairASAP]

One more thing. Regrowing your own hair is more natural then putting a blade to your head and transplanting hairs.

I meant the process (of coming from one hair to two hairs) not the procedure

putting a foreign (albeit autologous) chemical into your body to regrow hair is more natural than using zero chemicals and allowing you're own skin to multiply hair?

I want an injection that grows your hair back efficiently and without cancer as much as the next bald guy, but none of these companies seem that confident they will offer this.

Name one company that isn't still experimenting. There isn't a single company with an awesome protocol that they are just waiting to get through the FDA. All of them are still testing different methods. This alone could take ages, never mind after they get everything set in stone they have to get through the FDA.

I mean whats our best option from these guys? replicel? with 50% addition in hair in theory? and not even supposedly tested yet on humans? come on guys. Everyone is saying they are close to the panacea but nobody is confident enough to say they are there yet.


All I'm saying is

1. Gho shouldn't be dismissed

2. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for some selfless cosmetic surgeon to give HSt the okay. At this point, there is enough demand for FUT and FUE, so it's more cost effective for most surgeons to just bash Gho and continue to scoop up patients. until we see demand for and awareness of HST rise, and demand for FUT and FUE drop, HST's spread will be slow. Saldy, this is the way the world often works.

[Tracy C]

I will probably need one of these future treatments to get my preferred density, but I don't plan on seeing any of these before 2016.

This is where I am right now. I am very happy with what my hair restoration doctor has been able to do for me. I have a complete head of hair now, but it is very fine. My hair line is a perfect reconstruction of what I had before hair loss ruined my life, but I don't have the density I want.

I am sorry there isnt much more to say :-)

There in lies the problem. A lot of talk, but only a couple of "after" photos. Some references to a handful of "celebrities" I've never heard of, but no "before and after photos". At the very least a girl needs to see before and after photos. At the very least a girl needs to see some post op photos two or three years after.

Try to imagine what it would be like to convince a woman you know that she would need to shave her head to get the results she wants. And do so without providing any proof that the results have any chance of being what is promised... That is really reaching.

I now understand why doctors in the U.S. are not in a big hurry to write out a very big check to Dr. Gho to learn his technique.

[Kiwi]

Ok bugger. I just cant find it...

[Kiwi]

Didnt you look at the update foto from gcuk83?

You can clearly see 2 hair grafts sprouting

Nope. Ummm do you have a direct link to that update? (I'll look myself but could be handy to post here for quick access in future )

[RichardDawkins]

Didnt you look at the update foto from gcuk83?

You can clearly see 2 hair grafts sprouting

[Kiwi]

I wasn't trying to offend you. I was actually trying to tell you your problems have a solution, and a cheaper one than HST. You're obviously more than welcome in any discussion. I am not worried about convincing you. I would say that if you're looking for the most minimally invasive procedure, this is it. Although you will have to get a small strip shaved, but this is unavoidable until one of the future medical treatments comes out.

also- im not against histogen, adernas, replicel, etc., I just find "in situ" (that gho does) to be more "natural" than some of the other possible multiplication methods. I will probably need one of these future treatments to get my preferred density, but I don't plan on seeing any of these before 2016.

Whew for a second I thought you meant natual looking. And was thinking, how do you know?!? :P

The problem with Gho is still whether its good for harvesting grafts with more than 1 hair. (i.e 200 1s, 500 2s, 1250 3s)

Gho's clinic wont answer that and Dawkins didnt know either.

One more thing. Regrowing your own hair is more natural then putting a blade to your head and transplanting hairs.

[NeedHairASAP]

I do have a lot more coverage now than I had before. But I want more density. If there is something better and less invasive on the way, that is what I want.






It is? I didn't realize I was not welcome in this discussion.

Instead of wasting time and text trying to offend me, do a better job of convincing me.

I wasn't trying to offend you. I was actually trying to tell you your problems have a solution, and a cheaper one than HST. You're obviously more than welcome in any discussion. I am not worried about convincing you. I would say that if you're looking for the most minimally invasive procedure, this is it. Although you will have to get a small strip shaved, but this is unavoidable until one of the future medical treatments comes out.

also- im not against histogen, adernas, replicel, etc., I just find "in situ" (that gho does) to be more "natural" than some of the other possible multiplication methods. I will probably need one of these future treatments to get my preferred density, but I don't plan on seeing any of these before 2016.

[RichardDawkins]

Well the only thing to convice people i can say is

"Science backs Ghos claims up and even some FUE surgeons witnessed regrowth on a smaller scale"

I am sorry there isnt much more to say :-)

[Tracy C]

Also, if you have so much hair, then why do you care where you go?

I do have a lot more coverage now than I had before. But I want more density. If there is something better and less invasive on the way, that is what I want.

this is really a discussion for those of us heading for nw6-7 horshoe.

It is? I didn't realize I was not welcome in this discussion.

Instead of wasting time and text trying to offend me, do a better job of convincing me.

[NeedHairASAP]

I have never heard of any of those "high profile" people. Those photos are not very convincing. Besides, I already have more hair now than those fellas anyways.

Dean Saunders won the netherland's american idol

Wesley sneijder is a world famous soccer player, and a very big deal to people outside the US

Gert Jan Theunisse won the tour de france

Frans, Brigitte, and Hoop are all over T.V. in the netherlands.



...these people are pretty well known. At the moment, Gho is trying to sell HST to Europe not America. Doing a bunch of famous people from america's hair transplants would only do him so much good when his 4 clinics are in europe.


Also, most famous people who get hair transplants don't admit it... We can all list hollywood actors who got hair transplants but we can't name their doctors (their has been endless speculation), so I find it interesting these relatively well known people agreed to announce it.




Also, if you have so much hair, then why do you care where you go? this is really a discussion for those of us heading for nw6-7 horshoe. If you have a lot of hair and you wear it long, then there is no reason for Gho... just get another strip.

[Tracy C]

Sorry, but i really donīt think that tou, with 2 HT FUT and 2 scars, can use the hair short like Sjneider or the other guy.
not wanting to offend you...

There is only one scar - and you have great trouble finding it even if you know where it is.

There is no way I would wear my hair shorter than shoulder length.

You can't offend me. But you haven't convinced me.

[damielmillo]

Sorry, but i really donīt think that tou, with 2 HT FUT and 2 scars, can use the hair short like Sjneider or the other guy.
not wanting to offend you...

[Tracy C]

Tracy but i am happy that you consider a lesser invasive methode rather then cutting the back of your head.

I really cant undertand women who go for FUT, its ethical desastrous that surgeons perform this.

Actually, I have had two FUT surgeries performed by a very gifted doctor. The results are anything but disastrous. It changed my life. It gave me my life back. Compared to what my hair looked like before, the improvement is very dramatic - and the scar is incredibly difficult to find... Obviously I want more though. But if there is something better on the horizon than another surgery, I would want to do that.

I have never heard of any of those "high profile" people. Those photos are not very convincing. Besides, I already have more hair now than those fellas anyways.