Is HASCI for real?

[RichardDawkins]

Btw the last problem will only change when the old dinosaur docs like Rassman left the spot.

This was also stated briefly by Dr Hitzig in this interview here where he said that Rassman said something along the lines that he will retire soon.

Which is the best thing for us because with this to happen, there is a new way for far more advanced and interested docs out there.

But FUT will fall in the next three years definitely and FUE will be refined to the point of donor regeneration in a two digit percentage 30% or something but it wont be that consistent.

Also i can guarantee you that a lot of HST clinics will rise in asia, where donor regeneration will be a standard

[Tracy C]

Tracy you punched a wasps nest big time with your statement :-)

Really?

There was nothing unreasonable about it. This is a big deal. These concerns need to be addressed. Maybe they will be some day, but until then it's just talk?

[RichardDawkins]

I meant this is a positive way.

But nor surgeon will answer you this question. As a nice example here.

One clinic in the dutch european region and a direct competitor to Gho did post a segment about Hair Stem cells on their homepage, the funny thing was, it was only on the dutch version of the homepage :-)

When i openly dicussed this at hairsite a few months back, this article miraculously disappeared :-) and my uestions why this statement was only on the dutch version was ignored and my posting priviledges got of course restricted, even i didnt even attack anyone (rare i know but from time to time i am not agressive at all)

The only surgeons right now which have not yet bashed Gho are well Cole, Cooley and Hitzig and even the Replicel guys and Histogen guys didnt mock Gho at some point they mentioned that all of those can go hand in hand.

And of course for this act of truth they got their asses handled by shills and other clinics.

All i can tell you is, that in the European Union, you simply cant pull some marketing stunts without gtting banhammered permanently. For example Gho was bancrupt in the early 2000s and his then FM wasnt as consistent as he wanted it to be.

And now he is still there and he gets positive coverage. In holland, people who are new to hair loss, really believe that donor regeneration is just a standard, and they are ground shattered when you tell them about FUT.

And the fact that Gho operates on high profile patients......do you really think he would be so stupid to promote donor regeneration when he cant deliver it and then operate on high profile patients?

Oh and Gho doesnt shave the whole head on females.

[Tracy C]

And the fact that Gho operates on high profile patients......do you really think he would be so stupid to promote donor regeneration when he cant deliver it and then operate on high profile patients?

Can you name them?

Oh and Gho doesnt shave the whole head on females.

It doesn't make much difference if it is her whole head or just part of her head. Do you have any idea how long it takes to grow your hair back out? I've been enslaved by wigs before. I could do it again, but I need more than what I have seen to convince me to go though that again.

[damielmillo]

I think, this is the best 2 examples.
Wesley sjneider and Dean Saunders (Singer from Holland)
Sjneider is a future NW5 and Dean Saunders i think is a NW6
And if he can take the hair very short i think something good is doing HASCI
what do you think guys?

[RichardDawkins]

Yes those are two of them. And those are after fotos of Wesley Sneijder

Trac but i am happy that you consider a lesser invasive methode rather then cutting the back of your head.

I really cant undertand women who go for FUT, its ethical desastrous that surgeons perform this.

here are some high profile patients

1) Gerald Joling (multiple ST sesions and prior FUt transplant before)
2) Brigitte Maasland (eye brows)
3) Wesley Sneijder
4) Some musicians from the netherlands
5) scissor boy, some hair guru from Canada
6) Frans Baur
7) Jan De Hoop
8) Gert jan Theunisse (sportive)
9) gcuk (he has scarring alopecia and got HSI, i just call him a celebrity i dont know why but he deserves it)
10) Tim Akkerman
11) Regina Hees (Burning victim) http://www.hasci.com/homepage.aspx
12) Igli (young burning patient with multiple sessions) http://www.hasci.com/homepage.aspx
13) some females http://www.hasci.com/homepage.aspx

[Tracy C]

Tracy but i am happy that you consider a lesser invasive methode rather then cutting the back of your head.

I really cant undertand women who go for FUT, its ethical desastrous that surgeons perform this.

Actually, I have had two FUT surgeries performed by a very gifted doctor. The results are anything but disastrous. It changed my life. It gave me my life back. Compared to what my hair looked like before, the improvement is very dramatic - and the scar is incredibly difficult to find... Obviously I want more though. But if there is something better on the horizon than another surgery, I would want to do that.

I have never heard of any of those "high profile" people. Those photos are not very convincing. Besides, I already have more hair now than those fellas anyways.

[damielmillo]

Sorry, but i really don´t think that tou, with 2 HT FUT and 2 scars, can use the hair short like Sjneider or the other guy.
not wanting to offend you...

[Tracy C]

Sorry, but i really don´t think that tou, with 2 HT FUT and 2 scars, can use the hair short like Sjneider or the other guy.
not wanting to offend you...

There is only one scar - and you have great trouble finding it even if you know where it is.

There is no way I would wear my hair shorter than shoulder length.

You can't offend me. But you haven't convinced me.

[NeedHairASAP]

I have never heard of any of those "high profile" people. Those photos are not very convincing. Besides, I already have more hair now than those fellas anyways.

Dean Saunders won the netherland's american idol

Wesley sneijder is a world famous soccer player, and a very big deal to people outside the US

Gert Jan Theunisse won the tour de france

Frans, Brigitte, and Hoop are all over T.V. in the netherlands.



...these people are pretty well known. At the moment, Gho is trying to sell HST to Europe not America. Doing a bunch of famous people from america's hair transplants would only do him so much good when his 4 clinics are in europe.


Also, most famous people who get hair transplants don't admit it... We can all list hollywood actors who got hair transplants but we can't name their doctors (their has been endless speculation), so I find it interesting these relatively well known people agreed to announce it.




Also, if you have so much hair, then why do you care where you go? this is really a discussion for those of us heading for nw6-7 horshoe. If you have a lot of hair and you wear it long, then there is no reason for Gho... just get another strip.

[Tracy C]

Also, if you have so much hair, then why do you care where you go?

I do have a lot more coverage now than I had before. But I want more density. If there is something better and less invasive on the way, that is what I want.

this is really a discussion for those of us heading for nw6-7 horshoe.

It is? I didn't realize I was not welcome in this discussion.

Instead of wasting time and text trying to offend me, do a better job of convincing me.

[RichardDawkins]

Well the only thing to convice people i can say is

"Science backs Ghos claims up and even some FUE surgeons witnessed regrowth on a smaller scale"

I am sorry there isnt much more to say :-)

[NeedHairASAP]

I do have a lot more coverage now than I had before. But I want more density. If there is something better and less invasive on the way, that is what I want.






It is? I didn't realize I was not welcome in this discussion.

Instead of wasting time and text trying to offend me, do a better job of convincing me.

I wasn't trying to offend you. I was actually trying to tell you your problems have a solution, and a cheaper one than HST. You're obviously more than welcome in any discussion. I am not worried about convincing you. I would say that if you're looking for the most minimally invasive procedure, this is it. Although you will have to get a small strip shaved, but this is unavoidable until one of the future medical treatments comes out.

also- im not against histogen, adernas, replicel, etc., I just find "in situ" (that gho does) to be more "natural" than some of the other possible multiplication methods. I will probably need one of these future treatments to get my preferred density, but I don't plan on seeing any of these before 2016.

[Kiwi]

I wasn't trying to offend you. I was actually trying to tell you your problems have a solution, and a cheaper one than HST. You're obviously more than welcome in any discussion. I am not worried about convincing you. I would say that if you're looking for the most minimally invasive procedure, this is it. Although you will have to get a small strip shaved, but this is unavoidable until one of the future medical treatments comes out.

also- im not against histogen, adernas, replicel, etc., I just find "in situ" (that gho does) to be more "natural" than some of the other possible multiplication methods. I will probably need one of these future treatments to get my preferred density, but I don't plan on seeing any of these before 2016.

Whew for a second I thought you meant natual looking. And was thinking, how do you know?!? :P

The problem with Gho is still whether its good for harvesting grafts with more than 1 hair. (i.e 200 1s, 500 2s, 1250 3s)

Gho's clinic wont answer that and Dawkins didnt know either.

One more thing. Regrowing your own hair is more natural then putting a blade to your head and transplanting hairs.

[RichardDawkins]

Didnt you look at the update foto from gcuk83?

You can clearly see 2 hair grafts sprouting