Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

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  • NeedHairASAP
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    Originally posted by Maradona
    Same here. I wish I could get my hands on some HSC juice now, it will probably be useless to me when it comes out. MAYBE I could still save my ass like that woman on the pdf, if I pump myself up with some HSC juice.

    The fin guys are so lucky.

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by tizzle
    even if it doesnt grow new follicles and only revitalizes existing ones....
    why do you need new follicles when all of your follicles are already intact under the skin? Histogen won't grow "NEW" follicles. They're not cloning hair geez...

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  • Maradona
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    Originally posted by tizzle
    even if it doesnt grow new follicles and only revitalizes existing ones, i would definitely get a treatment every 1-2 years without Fin if necessary (if its not too expensive) i dont want to take a pill every day for the rest of my life, especially if it works with hormones
    Same here. I wish I could get my hands on some HSC juice now, it will probably be useless to me when it comes out. MAYBE I could still save my ass like that woman on the pdf, if I pump myself up with some HSC juice.

    The fin guys are so lucky.

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  • tizzle
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    Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
    If that is the case, it will probably last for a good 10-20 years before you need top up
    even if it doesnt grow new follicles and only revitalizes existing ones, i would definitely get a treatment every 1-2 years without Fin if necessary (if its not too expensive) i dont want to take a pill every day for the rest of my life, especially if it works with hormones

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  • yeahyeahyeah
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    Originally posted by tizzle
    My plan is to quit Finasteride the moment HSC comes out (if it works the way we all think it does). Since it gives strength to the follicles for at least a year (And Histogen said in interviews they think the follicles may last as long as the original follicles before DHT made them miniturize, if in fact they can regrow new follicles) i will get HSC every time the effect wears off and the hair starts falling out again due to DHT. I hope treatment wont be too expensive
    If that is the case, it will probably last for a good 10-20 years before you need top up

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  • tizzle
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    Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
    Let's say you thicken your hair with histogen injections, you still have mpb and your hair can still fall off. Okay so what if you get these injections and you are on finasteride or dutasteride, would you maintain the histogen grown hairs?

    My plan is to quit Finasteride the moment HSC comes out (if it works the way we all think it does). Since it gives strength to the follicles for at least a year (And Histogen said in interviews they think the follicles may last as long as the original follicles before DHT made them miniturize, if in fact they can regrow new follicles) i will get HSC every time the effect wears off and the hair starts falling out again due to DHT. I hope treatment wont be too expensive

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  • Kiwi
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    Originally posted by john2399
    If everything goes well, they will start phase 3 right after in 2013. After phase 3 than it hits the market but hopefully there are no delays and everything goes well.
    Phase 3 might take the longest

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  • john2399
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    Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
    There's 3 Phases?

    When they finish phase II, when do they start phase 3? And what happens after phase 3?
    If everything goes well, they will start phase 3 right after in 2013. After phase 3 than it hits the market but hopefully there are no delays and everything goes well.

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  • PatientlyWaiting
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    Let's say you thicken your hair with histogen injections, you still have mpb and your hair can still fall off. Okay so what if you get these injections and you are on finasteride or dutasteride, would you maintain the histogen grown hairs?

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  • PatientlyWaiting
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    Originally posted by john2399
    Phase 2 ends in december.
    There's 3 Phases?

    When they finish phase II, when do they start phase 3? And what happens after phase 3?

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  • john2399
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    Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
    So they're now going to phase II out of how many phases?
    Phase 2 ends in december.

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  • PatientlyWaiting
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    So they're now going to phase II out of how many phases?

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  • PatientlyWaiting
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    So Histogen is the injection treatment..Is it still 5-10 years away? I swear it's been 5 to 10 years away since it first hit the news. I just want it come out and get my injection.

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  • UK_
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    Originally posted by neversaynever
    Yes, there is science behind the thought that HSC can wake up those stem cells. There's alot of science that backs alot of the groups trying to develop baldness treatments.

    But there are too many gaps in the knowledge for male pattern baldness, and gaps in knowledge for WNT signalling.

    Initially, Histogen had hoped that HSC would revive 'dormant' follicles, but I think it's clear that is not going to happen, or we would have heard it from them by now.

    So ok, maybe they are testing on slick bald scalps, but if they cracked it, we would know by now.

    Hope? There is some...increased dosages and compounding might get some joy by the end of phase 2, lets see. It would make sense that a dormant follicle would take much longer than a thinning follicle to produce terminal hairs. I'm more convinced that HSC will prevent baldness than anything else (assuming its safe and cheap enough!)

    Negative? All this madness on the forums recently after replicel and histogens news. I personally think HSC is HUGE news, and I'm excited. I'm not sure if it will help me or not, but at least its a massive step in the right direction.
    Not necessarily because Histogen are recreating the process of hair follicle formation at the stage of embryogenesis.

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  • re22
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    How do you know they're not testing that in Phase II?

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