Anyone planning on taking the *new* Hasson and Wong liposomal topical fin?

[rakewell]

Do you mind sharing how you made you own liposomal fin?

[robodoc]

my thoughts

If you do we would be forever grateful for your part in getting bloodwork done BEFORE you start the cream. I would love to get it but alas, I am in the US. If you do plan on using this please please please get your serum DHT checked prior to use so we can see if their claims are substantiated or just another farce!

Also a log would be great!

I have use oral Fin for many years. Yes some negatives on the libido so I made my own liposomal fin. I might not experience much in the way of side effects as before when I took the oral but don't see any measurable differences in growth, maintenance on the topical. Remember the liposomal vehicle is directed at less absorption, less side effects.

Hasson & Wong seem very good at HT and also very expensive. I believe there are others who perform well and charge considerably less. That is my gripe H&W.

[Smallville]

Damn it. I was about to book a flight to go see Hasson & Wong for the prescription, then when I called to make an appointment the receptionist told me that they're not giving out prescriptions to US patients until it's able to be compounded in the US, not even if you go all the way to Vancouver.

As for the ETA on the USA availability, she's guessing another 3-4 months. God damn it.

You really think this will be effective???

What's interesting about this one vs other topical fin is the liposomal aspect and the nanoparticles to block systemic absorption!

[RU58841]

Damn it. I was about to book a flight to go see Hasson & Wong for the prescription, then when I called to make an appointment the receptionist told me that they're not giving out prescriptions to US patients until it's able to be compounded in the US, not even if you go all the way to Vancouver.

As for the ETA on the USA availability, she's guessing another 3-4 months. God damn it.

[burtandernie]

Topical fin can be effective, and you have to ask merck why that it is. All the other stuff like amount systemic and that who really knows. The internal pill is certainly a heck of a lot easier to use which is why merck did that instead. Little did they know the amount of complaining about sides that would show up in hair loss forums 20 years later

Sandman: I don’t get where you are concluding topical fin. is a waste of time.
When Merck was developing and researching the uses for fin. as it relates to hairloss, they found it was effective as a topical.
They chose the pill route because they felt, in the long run, it would be more convienient for users.
- See more at: http://www.regrowth.com/hair-loss-fo....sT35EloU.dpuf

[nobs]

You gotta wonder why Merck never developed a topical version of finasteride, maybe it can't work. Another user brought up a valid point that finasteride is a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor, not a dht blocker, so it might be possible for dht produced from the prostate to make it's way up to the scalp. Maybe we should focus our efforts on equol which blocks the effects of dht. Either way, unless we see a blood workup, we can't assume Vishnu's symptoms were completely due to finasteride going systematic.

[George76]

wooow hold on it look like there are the same side effects on the Finasteride pills...so may be it's not a good idea to try the topical solution I better stay away from it

[George76]

good to know

Thank You Schtif I''ll contact them

You can send them an Email: info@farmaciaparati.it. I've contacted them, the answer cam straight away:
thank you for contacting us.
To receive Finasteride gel 2,5% you only need to send us by email prescription of a doctor, and we can directly ship to you.
Attached you can find a sample of prescription that your doctor needs to fill.
The price for one bottle 30 ml is € 50,00 (+ shipping cost).
Please, tell us also what is your address for the shipping.

I'm not sure how lon 30ml is going to last, but looks like it is quite expensive.

Edit: Here the link http://www.farmaciaparati.it/en/ordina.html

[RU58841]

Isn't H&W's topical supposed to not go systemic because of the gel it is delivered in? Can you be sure that the symptoms are not psychosomatic?

That's the goal, yeah. Maybe some people need a lower concentration, or less gel, or maybe some unfortunately just can't handle it. Who knows, but I wouldn't count it out as "it doesn't work at all" just yet.

[ez456]

I've recently started to use H&W's topical and after only two days i'm experiencing watery semen , poor quality erections and loss of morning erection.

Are these side effects common with starting finasteride and go away if you continue or are they serious and require i stop this drug ?

Isn't H&W's topical supposed to not go systemic because of the gel it is delivered in? Can you be sure that the symptoms are not psychosomatic?

[Vishnu018]

I will contact them tonight.

Thanks for your story Fuzzy it's recomforting knowing you don't always end up with PFS when taking fin.

[FuzzyWuzzy]

I agree with RU, best to tell H&W. Sharing data openly helps us all.

Vishnu- I wouldn't worry. Took me maybe 4 weeks to come back. I think FIN decreases AR5 for 5 days and then it takes more time for DHT levels to re-build. Best thing is to not worry. Sleep 8 hours, go to gym. Just be healthy for a few weeks and it should be fine.

[RU58841]

I'm sure they will, but they'll also appreciate knowing that you experienced side effects. Might be able to make you a weaker version of the drug (although you might not be interested at this point, lol).

[Vishnu018]

I haven't yet but i think they'll tell me to stop the drug and wait for side effects to disappear.

[RU58841]

Thank you for your post Fuzzy.

I'm definitely quitting this drug although it's only been two days. I'm quite scared actually and hope i will recover soon.

How long did it take for your side effects to resolve after quitting the drug? For how long and what dosage have you been on fin ?

Vishnu, did you contact Hasson & Wong? What did they say? If not, please do.