Will an official cure ever be found? Honestly

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  • BoSox
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 697

    #61
    Originally posted by Swooping
    Unfortunately I don't have a ball that tells me what the future will bring mate, haha.

    But yeah want my speculative opinion? A full blown reversal cure isn't going to arrive for a minimum of 10 years that is on the market.. Unless a miracle happens.

    A somewhat functional cure may arise in the next 10 years, and is more likely in my opinion.

    It will most likely come from regenerative therapy or gene therapy imo.

    10 years? Replicel will be out a lot sooner than that.

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    • Swooping
      Senior Member
      • May 2014
      • 794

      #62
      Originally posted by BoSox
      10 years? Replicel will be out a lot sooner than that.
      I was talking in terms of a full cure reversal. Replicel isn't aimed towards that. They want to provide a preventative functional cure. That's what their hypothesis is based on. There might be some repair happening but it isn't going to be better in that sense than castration.

      That's what I call a functional cure. It goes well with the saying "prevention is better than cure". So that might happen in 10 years and is more likely to me.

      Replicel isn't going to give you your full head of hair back though. But then again you know miracles do happen, but chances for that are low to non-existent .

      Nonetheless if Replicel succeeds in their hypothesis it's f*cking huge anyway as that will spell the end for AGA basically.

      After all every man that just starts balding could just get some injections and be immunized to AGA basically. The NW6 won't gain anything from that though.

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      • BoSox
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 697

        #63
        Originally posted by Swooping
        I was talking in terms of a full cure reversal. Replicel isn't aimed towards that. They want to provide a preventative functional cure. That's what their hypothesis is based on. There might be some repair happening but it isn't going to be better in that sense than castration.

        That's what I call a functional cure. It goes well with the saying "prevention is better than cure". So that might happen in 10 years and is more likely to me.

        Replicel isn't going to give you your full head of hair back though. But then again you know miracles do happen, but chances for that are low to non-existent .

        Nonetheless if Replicel succeeds in their hypothesis it's f*cking huge anyway as that will spell the end for AGA basically.

        After all every man that just starts balding could just get some injections and be immunized to AGA basically. The NW6 won't gain anything from that though.

        How is Replicel not aimed towards that? They are cloning and creating infinite amount of hair.

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        • Swooping
          Senior Member
          • May 2014
          • 794

          #64
          Originally posted by BoSox
          How is Replicel not aimed towards that? They are cloning and creating infinite amount of hair.
          You clearly haven't followed Replicel lately then. Start reading or listen to some interviews/presentations they gave lately and you'll understand what I mean.

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          • lol76
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2015
            • 24

            #65
            Originally posted by Swooping
            I was talking in terms of a full cure reversal. Replicel isn't aimed towards that. They want to provide a preventative functional cure. That's what their hypothesis is based on. There might be some repair happening but it isn't going to be better in that sense than castration.

            That's what I call a functional cure. It goes well with the saying "prevention is better than cure". So that might happen in 10 years and is more likely to me.

            Replicel isn't going to give you your full head of hair back though. But then again you know miracles do happen, but chances for that are low to non-existent .

            Nonetheless if Replicel succeeds in their hypothesis it's f*cking huge anyway as that will spell the end for AGA basically.

            After all every man that just starts balding could just get some injections and be immunized to AGA basically. The NW6 won't gain anything from that though.
            Huh? Is Replicel really that promising?

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            • wriggles
              Junior Member
              • Oct 2015
              • 7

              #66
              Originally posted by Swooping
              I was talking in terms of a full cure reversal. Replicel isn't aimed towards that. They want to provide a preventative functional cure. That's what their hypothesis is based on. There might be some repair happening but it isn't going to be better in that sense than castration.

              That's what I call a functional cure. It goes well with the saying "prevention is better than cure". So that might happen in 10 years and is more likely to me.

              Replicel isn't going to give you your full head of hair back though. But then again you know miracles do happen, but chances for that are low to non-existent .

              Nonetheless if Replicel succeeds in their hypothesis it's f*cking huge anyway as that will spell the end for AGA basically.

              After all every man that just starts balding could just get some injections and be immunized to AGA basically. The NW6 won't gain anything from that though.
              If Replicel can immunize AGA, wouldn't that mean that the follicles would re-awaken and then start growing?

              So if you inject a NW6 with a DHT killer, doesn't that basically mean that there's nothing to attack the follicle so it would begin to grow again?

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              • BoSox
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2010
                • 697

                #67
                Originally posted by Swooping
                You clearly haven't followed Replicel lately then. Start reading or listen to some interviews/presentations they gave lately and you'll understand what I mean.
                I have, they stated a patient might need multiple injections to achieve full head of hair. They haven't confirmed or ruled that out, current trials are testing that. I don't see how anybody can just come to the conclusion that it won't be a cure.

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                • dutchguyhanging
                  Member
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 87

                  #68
                  Originally posted by BoSox
                  I have, they stated a patient might need multiple injections to achieve full head of hair. They haven't confirmed or ruled that out, current trials are testing that. I don't see how anybody can just come to the conclusion that it won't be a cure.
                  I think swooping has to read replicel again.. they havent ruled out anything yet. they want to wait for the results... they are not BSing company thats why they dont want to make any bold statements.... have a look at msg from Replicel on their fb page


                  RepliCel We believe the newly injected dermal sheath cup cells will migrate into the dormant hair follicles and cause them to grow new hair. We also believe these new hairs will not be affected by the DHT hormone that causes the other hair to fall out because we have isolated cells from the lower back of the scalp where they are not affected. We do not know how far the cells will spread. All of these questions will be answered in our phase 2 clinical trial.

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                  • Hubris
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2015
                    • 116

                    #69
                    Originally posted by wriggles
                    If Replicel can immunize AGA, wouldn't that mean that the follicles would re-awaken and then start growing?

                    So if you inject a NW6 with a DHT killer, doesn't that basically mean that there's nothing to attack the follicle so it would begin to grow again?
                    Probably not. Even castration can't bring a NW6 back to a NW1.

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                    • wriggles
                      Junior Member
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 7

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Hubris
                      Probably not. Even castration can't bring a NW6 back to a NW1.
                      Why not? What's the scientific reason?

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                      • Arashi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3888

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Swooping
                        You clearly haven't followed Replicel lately then. Start reading or listen to some interviews/presentations they gave lately and you'll understand what I mean.
                        Hey Swooping, how are you doing ? I havent really followed Replicel myself. I know one thing though: the stock market never is wrong. REPCF currently trades at 21 cents and has a market cap of a lousy 13M usd, which is a joke, even for an OTC company. It's pretty much all one needs to know.

                        So not getting my hopes up on replicel ...

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                        • iaskdumbquestions
                          Member
                          • Dec 2015
                          • 51

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Arashi
                          Hey Swooping, how are you doing ? I havent really followed Replicel myself. I know one thing though: the stock market never is wrong. REPCF currently trades at 21 cents and has a market cap of a lousy 13M usd, which is a joke, even for an OTC company. It's pretty much all one needs to know.

                          So not getting my hopes up on replicel ...
                          Judging a company's pipeline by its valuation is lunacy, and it works the other way around. A company's valuation should be judged by its pipeline, and, in this case, it could signal REPCF is a buy (Not saying it is - I have never performed a valuation on the company). Our specialized knowledge of hair loss would give us an edge over the pension/hedge/mutual fund guys.

                          Maybe I'll put some money into the company and use those gains to finance my treatment.

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                          • Arashi
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 3888

                            #73
                            Originally posted by iaskdumbquestions
                            Judging a company's pipeline by its valuation is lunacy, and it works the other way around. A company's valuation should be judged by its pipeline, and, in this case, it could signal REPCF is a buy (Not saying it is - I have never performed a valuation on the company). Our specialized knowledge of hair loss would give us an edge over the pension/hedge/mutual fund guys.

                            Maybe I'll put some money into the company and use those gains to finance my treatment.
                            I've been a professional stock trader for 18 years now. Believe me bro, when the market values a stock like this it means there's not much to get excited about right now. That doesn't mean it can't work, but that there's no such indication at the moment, it's a long shot, based on the market value.

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                            • jamesst11
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 1067

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Arashi
                              I've been a professional stock trader for 18 years now. Believe me bro, when the market values a stock like this it means there's not much to get excited about right now. That doesn't mean it can't work, but that there's no such indication at the moment, it's a long shot, based on the market value.
                              I don't know too much about stocks, so I probably shouldn't comment, but I will anyway! haha... if professional brokers have the knowledge ahead of time of a company on the verge of something huge, wouldn't people be investing in it like crazy? and therefor drive the stock prices up? It seems logical that a stock that small may HAVE potential, but it doesn't right now.

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                              • iaskdumbquestions
                                Member
                                • Dec 2015
                                • 51

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Arashi
                                I've been a professional stock trader for 18 years now. Believe me bro, when the market values a stock like this it means there's not much to get excited about right now. That doesn't mean it can't work, but that there's no such indication at the moment, it's a long shot, based on the market value.
                                That's a very backwards way of thinking about stocks in my opinion.

                                Originally posted by jamesst11
                                I don't know too much about stocks, so I probably shouldn't comment, but I will anyway! haha... if professional brokers have the knowledge ahead of time of a company on the verge of something huge, wouldn't people be investing in it like crazy? and therefor drive the stock prices up? It seems logical that a stock that small may HAVE potential, but it doesn't right now.
                                Professional traders have the same information available as anyone else. Trading on non-public information is illegal. But yes, when a company announces something huge (I.E. Facebook with Oculus Rift ), its stock price will increase. A small company like Replicel though doesn't have the coverage that big companies do for that though. If Phase 2 is succesful you will likely see an increase in its stock price. but I don't think it would be by much.

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