US government owned patent on hair follicle neogensis

[Gbalding]

Actually you're wrong. People patent new concepts that could theoretically work based on a design and a patent filing.

You hear stories all the time of tech businesses filing patents and then doing nothing at all in that space because either a) it's not possible b) they just don't want other people doing it

I like your choice of words because if you knew anything about patent law you'd know that you can't patent theories or concepts.

Patents give the inventor the right to exclusively make/sell/licence the physical embodiment of their "invention".

I can spend a lot of dough applying for a patent based on a "concept", but unless I show that it can be physically manifested right away, I won't be granted one.

All this information is available for free at www.ustpo.gov

[Slam1523]

isnt it the point? what do you think? if a cure did actually exist, we would not hear from here. it would be all over TV and internet. No one here claiming that the cure is on the way. And no one knows what they are working on... However this institution is funded by US military which is why we are all enthusiastic. And the fact that they are acting low profile gives me the most hope...
After all, hair loss is something human kind has been dealing with since our existence. So do not expect a full disclosure on what they are working or how close they are.
And also dont believe the timeline crap.. it could be tomorrow or 20 years from now. Thats the beauty of it

This from the person claiming this is the biggest news in the past ten years, and that because the U.S. Army is involved makes you very optimistic? You're one of the ones acting like this is what we're waiting for! The biggest leap in the past ten years is a patent filing in your opinion... Bro let me apologize for firstly being realistic that a patent literally means very little... Oh and being quiet on a product isn't a say all as to how great it is either...

[dutchguyhanging]

isnt it the point? what do you think? if a cure did actually exist, we would not hear from here. it would be all over TV and internet. No one here claiming that the cure is on the way. And no one knows what they are working on... However this institution is funded by US military which is why we are all enthusiastic. And the fact that they are acting low profile gives me the most hope...
After all, hair loss is something human kind has been dealing with since our existence. So do not expect a full disclosure on what they are working or how close they are.
And also dont believe the timeline crap.. it could be tomorrow or 20 years from now. Thats the beauty of it

[Brock]

Anybody know when it'll be available ?

[bigentries]

Actually you're wrong. People patent new concepts that could theoretically work based on a design and a patent filing.

You hear stories all the time of tech businesses filing patents and then doing nothing at all in that space because either a) it's not possible b) they just don't want other people doing it

Rumor sites love to publish patents that don't make any sense. The assumption is that they file those patents just to confuse competitors

[Slam1523]

Relax slam be patient the university is just begining to conduct trials. At any rate, I feel confidant than anything else in wake forest with government backing.

Renee all I'm saying is if you read a lot of the comments in this thread, that people are basing success solely on where it's coming from rather than information regarding the product or service... I haven't said it won't work, I haven't said that it would, I've simply said sweet, guess we keep waiting... We have NO information to base any decisions off of yet, so what's the chatters out? That the U.S. Government which by the way has been involved in many failed investments, is involved in this?

[Renee]

Relax slam be patient the university is just begining to conduct trials. At any rate, I feel confidant than anything else in wake forest with government backing.

[Slam1523]

Yes renee, i saw another company who sell it also. But as we need our own cells, those things is just for hair research, drug testing,etc.. for the moment

Jay, I would answer yes to your 2 posts, but you know i'm in the optimist way lol

In my opinion, as it's regenerative medecine, the term 'topical' in the Wake forest trial would mean extraction of the cells (make them what they need) and then precise application topically ( as it's said in the patent:

"methods are disclosed herein for transplanting cells capable of inducing human hair follicles to a subject, comprising delivering to a human subject any of the microspheres described above. In some embodiments, the microsphere is subdermally or intradermally delivered to a subject."

So "regenerative medecine" is that kind of sh.., and it's what Wake forest is dedicated to, so I really don't think that the term 'topical' here mean they are testing an "Androgen spray, Minox 2.0, or other BS",

Slam , I'm not sure you received health awards,etc with just claims, for me they have something

Ok so what exactly is it that they have? I'm not making any claims other than a patent is not a game changer, but you are claiming that they have something... So, what is it? What is there to be just jumping out of my socks for? What's the process, what's the yield, what does this treatment that you say is likely to work consist of? I mean they obviously have something, so I will patiently wait for your explanation outlining what it is they have... I would tell you my thoughts, but for for the obvious reason of not receiving health awards I'm barred from speaking an opinion regarding this...

[jpar]

set aside all of this speculation, I talked to the receptionist at Wake Health. She had a Carolinian accent and interupted me saying "Now that study is all filled up (with trial patients)" "....I'm Sorry!" So whatever the hell Wake is up to it's definitely under way

[Kiwi]

That is actually not true.

You can apply for a patent under those conditions, but no member of the World Trade Organization would grant you a patent unless your invention works.

Actually you're wrong. People patent new concepts that could theoretically work based on a design and a patent filing.

You hear stories all the time of tech businesses filing patents and then doing nothing at all in that space because either a) it's not possible b) they just don't want other people doing it

[Gbalding]

You can patent something that you have never done.... you can patent things based on technologies that dont even exist.

So, this does not automatically mean anything at all and is probably a worthless garbage patent

That is actually not true.

You can apply for a patent under those conditions, but no member of the World Trade Organization would grant you a patent unless your invention works.

[lacazette]

Yes renee, i saw another company who sell it also. But as we need our own cells, those things is just for hair research, drug testing,etc.. for the moment

Jay, I would answer yes to your 2 posts, but you know i'm in the optimist way lol

In my opinion, as it's regenerative medecine, the term 'topical' in the Wake forest trial would mean extraction of the cells (make them what they need) and then precise application topically ( as it's said in the patent:

"methods are disclosed herein for transplanting cells capable of inducing human hair follicles to a subject, comprising delivering to a human subject any of the microspheres described above. In some embodiments, the microsphere is subdermally or intradermally delivered to a subject."

So "regenerative medecine" is that kind of sh.., and it's what Wake forest is dedicated to, so I really don't think that the term 'topical' here mean they are testing an "Androgen spray, Minox 2.0, or other BS",

Slam , I'm not sure you received health awards,etc with just claims, for me they have something

[Slam1523]

You can patent something that you have never done.... you can patent things based on technologies that dont even exist.

So, this does not automatically mean anything at all and is probably a worthless garbage patent

Yep... I see no point is avoiding the concept of hope, but there was a little bit more optimism than i would've expected seeing as it's merely a patent

[Renee]

Somebody correct me if I misunderstood. See link, is this company selling derma papilla cells??

http://www.promocell.com/index.php?id=562&tx_dqextshop_pi1%5Bselected_country%5D=USA

[Renee]

Dazza I know that....Do a better job of reading previous posts before u comment, he is referring to dr Rajesh Thangapazham.