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  • TheUltimatePoet
    Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 51

    Haha. Good enough!

    Mentally, I would put you in the same approximate category as Devon. I feel you are comparable to me at least. Good to know.

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    • kantian
      Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 48

      Peter Fox • 2 hours ago
      Devon,

      The picture of the rat that received the treatment seems to gain about 20% of its hairs and only vellus (thin, wispy) hairs. Do you have a reason to believe it will work differently with humans? I am unable to find yours or Dr. Hsu's beliefs on this topic in the documents you've released.

      ^^^ From the follicept website discussion. Do you guys know anything about this?

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      • StayThick
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 624

        Originally posted by kantian
        Peter Fox • 2 hours ago
        Devon,

        The picture of the rat that received the treatment seems to gain about 20% of its hairs and only vellus (thin, wispy) hairs. Do you have a reason to believe it will work differently with humans? I am unable to find yours or Dr. Hsu's beliefs on this topic in the documents you've released.

        ^^^ From the follicept website discussion. Do you guys know anything about this?
        You bring up a very interesting question. I guess they don't know until after an extended period of time with the trial participants.

        Last thing we all care for is a bunch a light vellus hairs or peach fuzz.

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        • serenemoon
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 210

          Originally posted by kantian
          Peter Fox • 2 hours ago
          Devon,

          The picture of the rat that received the treatment seems to gain about 20% of its hairs and only vellus (thin, wispy) hairs. Do you have a reason to believe it will work differently with humans? I am unable to find yours or Dr. Hsu's beliefs on this topic in the documents you've released.

          ^^^ From the follicept website discussion. Do you guys know anything about this?
          Devon's response to that -

          "I addressed this at some point- I think on one of the long threads on BTT. Those aren't necessarily vellus hairs, that's just what that kind of rat's hair looks like. We chose them because they have a gene that knocks out hair growth, making follicles stunted and any hair that does grow appear wiry, kinked, and white. The lack of pigment has to do with their genetics and not the performance of the product. This help?"

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          • Hemo
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2015
            • 138

            nvm.

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            • NeedHairASAP
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 1408

              PILOX


              Hairegen classic - patent protected technology.

              In 2009, Professor Dov Aingmn, a renowned professor from the Technion, signed on the development of a number of patents, exploring the theme of technology development for the treatment of baldness. Prof. Aingmn unveiled his vision for product development and technology working to restore full functionality animals and dormant hair follicles and was the first experimenter development, as balding hair for genetic reasons. The months passed and the amazement of those around and the family, a theory that has proven itself and introduced new hair began to grow in the head.

              The surprising results led many investors and patients interested in the product and its development. For this purpose, founded by Prof. Aingmn, along with scientists, development and management of the Fiilogi'ks.

              The first prototype of the device was distributed in 2010 to dozens of men and women with thinning hair, alopecia and increased dropout. The results were not long in coming: the new hair began to grow in diluted, hair thickness and growth rate increased, flexible and scalp became thicker, growth came in areas of baldness and users reported significant improvement continued with continued use of the device.

              In view of success, continued Filogi'ks develop the technology and test it for hundreds of other users, and finally developed commercial product for home use as it is today: the classic Hairegen

              Hairegen classic marketed in Israel by "Dimdiko Medical Technologies Ltd." ideological partner and exclusive agent of "Fiilog'iks" Israel.
              Last edited by Winston; 05-14-2015, 05:57 PM.

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              • joachim
                Senior Member
                • May 2014
                • 559

                Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
                PILOX


                Hairegen classic - patent protected technology.

                In 2009, Professor Dov Aingmn, a renowned professor from the Technion, signed on the development of a number of patents, exploring the theme of technology development for the treatment of baldness. Prof. Aingmn unveiled his vision for product development and technology working to restore full functionality animals and dormant hair follicles and was the first experimenter development, as balding hair for genetic reasons. The months passed and the amazement of those around and the family, a theory that has proven itself and introduced new hair began to grow in the head.

                The surprising results led many investors and patients interested in the product and its development. For this purpose, founded by Prof. Aingmn, along with scientists, development and management of the Fiilogi'ks.

                The first prototype of the device was distributed in 2010 to dozens of men and women with thinning hair, alopecia and increased dropout. The results were not long in coming: the new hair began to grow in diluted, hair thickness and growth rate increased, flexible and scalp became thicker, growth came in areas of baldness and users reported significant improvement continued with continued use of the device.

                In view of success, continued Filogi'ks develop the technology and test it for hundreds of other users, and finally developed commercial product for home use as it is today: the classic Hairegen

                Hairegen classic marketed in Israel by "Dimdiko Medical Technologies Ltd." ideological partner and exclusive agent of "Fiilog'iks" Israel.
                what now? where is the article from? pilox is available now in israel?
                we already found out that it's a useless device, not to say scam, no?
                give us more details and a status update, please

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                • NeedHairASAP
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1408

                  Originally posted by joachim
                  what now? where is the article from? pilox is available now in israel?
                  we already found out that it's a useless device, not to say scam, no?
                  give us more details and a status update, please
                  Hair Reborn, a combination of increasing the amount of hair at the top and thickening existing hair leading to a significant improvement in appearance of hair and hair feeling reborn. Using classic Hairegen home, comfortable, safe, no side effects and is the only solution with guaranteed performance!

                  At the end of the first four months of therapy will improve aggregate of 30% in two parameters: the new hair growth and thickening of existing hair. Regular use on your Hairegen Classic will ensure that the hair continues to recover after the first four months of treatment.

                  In order to enjoy the promise of performance you perform both tests Trikoskn (accurate scientific testing and evaluating the state of the hair) - first test with the receiving device and the second at 4 months. Comparison of the results of these tests, see the actual results of the improvement in the hair of your head.

                  Was re-grew hair and stands percent performance target? (30% improvement over 4 months) your entire happiness and ours. Keep it up. Was not - replace the entire device and right and your money will be refunded in full.

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                  • NeedHairASAP
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 1408

                    Originally posted by joachim
                    what now? where is the article from? pilox is available now in israel?
                    we already found out that it's a useless device, not to say scam, no?
                    give us more details and a status update, please
                    how did you already find out the device was useless? How did you find out a scam?


                    Arashi claimed (aka predicted based on no proof) it was a scam. He also claimed that it was a product of "Yoram Benitah"... which.... it is not. Yoram works at the company but is not the owner of the company, or the inventor, and maybe isn't even an investor... he might even just be a consultant they hired to do the trichoscans.... but... of course Arashi ignored these facts because this doesn't meld with his "predication/proclamation"

                    and now? it is launching in isreal and it guarentees 30% increase BASED ON TRICHOSCANS...... something that no scam (or real product) has ever offered EVER.

                    Sound like a scam now arashi?

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                    • efedrez
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 168

                      Last Tuesday Devon published more detailed pictures of the trial participants and the 2 week progress

                      Nothing to report yet really but honestly if they show something at this stage I would be more skeptical than happy so I guess we will have to wait a bit more to see

                      http://www.*******/folliceptpics

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                      • just2hairs
                        Member
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 39

                        Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
                        PILOX


                        Hairegen classic - patent protected technology.

                        In 2009, Professor Dov Aingmn, a renowned professor from the Technion, signed on the development of a number of patents, exploring the theme of technology development for the treatment of baldness. Prof. Aingmn unveiled his vision for product development and technology working to restore full functionality animals and dormant hair follicles and was the first experimenter development, as balding hair for genetic reasons. The months passed and the amazement of those around and the family, a theory that has proven itself and introduced new hair began to grow in the head.

                        The surprising results led many investors and patients interested in the product and its development. For this purpose, founded by Prof. Aingmn, along with scientists, development and management of the Fiilogi'ks.

                        The first prototype of the device was distributed in 2010 to dozens of men and women with thinning hair, alopecia and increased dropout. The results were not long in coming: the new hair began to grow in diluted, hair thickness and growth rate increased, flexible and scalp became thicker, growth came in areas of baldness and users reported significant improvement continued with continued use of the device.

                        In view of success, continued Filogi'ks develop the technology and test it for hundreds of other users, and finally developed commercial product for home use as it is today: the classic Hairegen

                        Hairegen classic marketed in Israel by "Dimdiko Medical Technologies Ltd." ideological partner and exclusive agent of "Fiilog'iks" Israel.
                        Why is Pilox in this thread?

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                        • bigentries
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 465

                          Originally posted by just2hairs
                          Why is Pilox in this thread?
                          My guess is that he is moderated and can't make a new thread. The guy is obsessed with that crap. He keeps bumping his threads about it in other forums and he's been doing it for maybe two years already

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                          • nameless
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 965

                            Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
                            PILOX


                            Hairegen classic - patent protected technology.

                            In 2009, Professor Dov Aingmn, a renowned professor from the Technion, signed on the development of a number of patents, exploring the theme of technology development for the treatment of baldness. Prof. Aingmn unveiled his vision for product development and technology working to restore full functionality animals and dormant hair follicles and was the first experimenter development, as balding hair for genetic reasons. The months passed and the amazement of those around and the family, a theory that has proven itself and introduced new hair began to grow in the head.

                            The surprising results led many investors and patients interested in the product and its development. For this purpose, founded by Prof. Aingmn, along with scientists, development and management of the Fiilogi'ks.

                            The first prototype of the device was distributed in 2010 to dozens of men and women with thinning hair, alopecia and increased dropout. The results were not long in coming: the new hair began to grow in diluted, hair thickness and growth rate increased, flexible and scalp became thicker, growth came in areas of baldness and users reported significant improvement continued with continued use of the device.

                            In view of success, continued Filogi'ks develop the technology and test it for hundreds of other users, and finally developed commercial product for home use as it is today: the classic Hairegen

                            Hairegen classic marketed in Israel by "Dimdiko Medical Technologies Ltd." ideological partner and exclusive agent of "Fiilog'iks" Israel.

                            Both Vraf and Elevation tried this product and it did not work on either of them. 2 out of 2 failure rate = 100% failure rate. It's proved snake-oil.

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                            • TheUltimatePoet
                              Member
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 51

                              So Pilox has been around for 2 years and I have never heard about it until now? Doesn't sound like it does what they claim.

                              I noticed they have a money back guarantee. Sounds impressive until you find out that only 1 in 200 customers (or something like that) actually bother to claim their refund. Nisim has the same deal.
                              Last edited by TheUltimatePoet; 05-15-2015, 10:52 AM. Reason: Grammar!

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                              • Arashi
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 3888

                                Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
                                how did you already find out the device was useless? How did you find out a scam?


                                Arashi claimed (aka predicted based on no proof) it was a scam. He also claimed that it was a product of "Yoram Benitah"... which.... it is not. Yoram works at the company but is not the owner of the company, or the inventor, and maybe isn't even an investor... he might even just be a consultant they hired to do the trichoscans.... but... of course Arashi ignored these facts because this doesn't meld with his "predication/proclamation"

                                and now? it is launching in isreal and it guarentees 30% increase BASED ON TRICHOSCANS...... something that no scam (or real product) has ever offered EVER.

                                Sound like a scam now arashi?
                                LOL. No this isn't a scam. That's why the 2 test users, vraf and that other guy, had 0 results. Cause it works so well

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