Further Follicept civil conversation

[serenemoon]

StayThick called us to the mat, so I invited him to have a conversation. That's all. Don't know if he can/will participate, if it makes sense, if he wants to, etc. He said he is nearby, so I invited him to have a conversation. That's all. Don't read into it as a reversal or changing of minds or whatever. If it makes sense for him to participate, he might. Most of the other stuff is unfounded. There are some really intelligent, well-read members on here who have contributed to the conversation and raised some awesome points. We'll always appreciate that, and just don't see as much of it lately.

+1.

[serenemoon]

Devon, what is the best way for us to relay contact information in regards to possibly being involved in the trials? Especially considering I'm local here in FL to your facility? I still at this point have not heard from you. Is this still a possibility and on the table at the moment? I would love to be a part of this and track my results, including my progress with this forum since this is the only hairloss forum I am a part of and have been for quite some time.

Let me know what you would like me to do to relay my contact information over to you personally. Through your website, etc. Thanks.

Hey StayThick, his email address is in this article. http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...5#.VUvNR4Wr8rE

I remember reading in an earlier post where he said that he wanted you to email him. Hopefully this will help. Good luck with the trials brother!! Hope you grow a massive amount of hair.

[StayThick]

Thank you! I didn't have his email address nor did I see his response that you copied. I will email him now!

Thanks for posting this.

[efedrez]

I didn't brag to him, I made a bet with him that if it works, he has to kiss my former bald spot. Two very different things.

As for how we communicate- our corporate culture and identity and positioning is up to us. I love to joke around and am very easygoing. I take life and this work very seriously, but it doesn't mean we can't all have fun in the process! I have the full support of Dr. Hsu in how I and we communicate. If you want a stodgy company who doesn't talk to you until we want your money and routes you through call centers for any customer service issues, we can be that. But we don't want that and I don't think you do either. Success or failure, is it not cool to be a part of this? I know I am having fun, even though it's incredibly hard. Our whole company is what Dr. Hsu likes to call a "grand experiment".

No one knows for sure what the outcome of Follicept is going to be, but if this really turn out to be a reasonable treatment it's definitely exiting being able to be part of that history (even as a internet forum member).

Personally I haven't even mentioned anything about it to friends or family suffering from MPB but I would love to be the first in give them the great news if this really works.

If it doesn't, well I guess we will always have the "5 years ready to market" treatments

[stayhopeful]

haha this forum is popping again back and forth! It's all about the results guys! We're clsoer than ever. results that's all that matters.... hopefully we have something here better than both fin and minox

[Afghanwig]

Swooping is a very unlikely potential customer, and I haven't really mocked him.

LOL haven't really mocked him? Even Winston called your behaviour unprofessional! And why are you saying Swooping is a very unlikely potential customer? If you could prove, beyond reasonable doubt, that your product works, do you think ANYBODY here is an 'unlikely potential customer'? Of course not! Yeah sure, if you keep going down the road you are on right now, you will have a hard time convincing skeptics and most skeptics won't buy your product. But if you just did some simple things, you could convince everybody. Yet you don't want to do that, you don't care about convincing people and you accept that skeptics won't be your customer. That's very odd the least ...

[Keki]

I don't think he should care about convincing skeptics people to buy his product once and if we have real results, they will be a minority and eventually they will buy follicept few months later with other people reviews

[bigentries]

Nothing in the world gets done if you wait for 100% certainty. The most important thing to me is my conscience. I may not be able to convince you of that, but your opinion is none of my business. I have to lay my head on my pillow at night, and manipulating photos and people would not allow me to do that. I would much rather fail, lick my wounds, and move on.

Dude, sorry, but it is your business

Remember, you are working on a medical condition. Your job is to convince people. There are tons of ethics surrounding medicine.

How is Swooping not a potential customer? Do you think anyone here would turn down a cure? Hell if this thing works I'll pay you a trip to the Caribbean for a week. I would offer to build a temple for you, but I already promised that to a guy in another forum if he show results

Honestly, I hope you are 100% sure what you are doing, because if this thing doesn't works, I can see these kind of posts hunting you for the rest of your life.

[efedrez]

Swooping is a very unlikely potential customer, and I haven't really mocked him. We have engaged in spirited witty banter, which I still feel is good natured for both of us. I don't think he feels mocked, and sorry if he does. I think he feels like I am the idiot and he has the moral high ground. An opinion to which he is entitled and that I am working to disprove via these trials. He has agreed that time will tell.

Devon, I'm rooting for Follicept 100%, mainly because I want to get my hair back but also because I believe in small entrepreneurs making it into a complicated business scenario.

But if I can give you a word of advice, It would be beneficial if you take a rather different approach when addressing potential customer (we all are). I admire your professionalism in from of a camera and even enjoined your jokes on your videos but keep in mind that you are not a regular forum member who can engage petty argument that might hurt your ego.

I understand you are still a very young guy and can only imagine this is being very exiting from a career perspective but keeping a more objective point of view instead of fighting back when you are offended will give you more credibility...if results are any good,they will do all the taking for you

[Afghanwig]

if results are any good,they will do all the taking for you

Exactly that. I don't even understand what Devon is doing here at all. Just get us *credible* results! Only people who can't deliver credible results, need talking.

[serenemoon]

I really hope you guys will keep your promises if this thing works.

So far, I see

Swooping will fly Devon out to the Netherlands.
Big entries will pay for a week long Carribean trip.

Anyone else want to jump in?

[bigentries]

I really hope you guys will keep your promises if this thing works.

So far, I see

Swooping will fly Devon out to the Netherlands.
Big entries will pay for a week long Carribean trip.

Anyone else want to jump in?

Let's make it interesting. What do we skeptics get? What about instant bans in 2016? We are putting money on the line, so make it interesting

Edit: I will also accept trips to the Netherlands or the Caribbean

[serenemoon]

Thank you! I didn't have his email address nor did I see his response that you copied. I will email him now!

Thanks for posting this.

+1. You are welcome! Very exciting to have a trusted forum member like you try this.

[youngin]

I am quite confident this will fail. There is really no proof at all it will work and it does nothing to address the undeniable fibrosis/calcification involved in MPB. Go look at the peppermint oil study and see how much better it was than minoxidil and igf if you want studies on hair growth.

[serenemoon]

Here you go, Arashi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyIHizw0kcU