Where are the phase IIb results for Bimatoprost?

[Occulus]

If they don't post any results about it tomorrow, it's officially dead

Yeah, I'm definitely losing hope. If they don't give some indication of moving forward with it tomorrow, it's probably dead.

[JayM]

why would they present a poster at congress on it if it was dead? lol

[It's2014ComeOnAlready]

@barfacan and @Occulus

The perpetual negativity is nonsense. You must be this way in your every day lives as well. What a shame.

They clearly stated in their previous quarterly presentation that bim is one of the 70+ programs they are moving forward with. I don't know how many times I have to state this, or direct you to the presentation I'm referencing.

The chart I'm speaking of also indicates that the programs listed are the closest to release and latest stage. Because, also as I have stated before (I took the time to look them up) each program is either well underway in Phase 3, launched, or set to launch in late 2015/early 2016. Just use logic.

[burtandernie]

So we might find out how well this stuff did tomorrow? That's great news! Between this and SM I think we are finally going to enter a new phase of treatment after twenty years of being stuck with finasteride and minoxidil.

It was bound to happen eventually.

[barfacan]

@barfacan and @Occulus

The perpetual negativity is nonsense. You must be this way in your every day lives as well. What a shame.

They clearly stated in their previous quarterly presentation that bim is one of the 70+ programs they are moving forward with. I don't know how many times I have to state this, or direct you to the presentation I'm referencing.

The chart I'm speaking of also indicates that the programs listed are the closest to release and latest stage. Because, also as I have stated before (I took the time to look them up) each program is either well underway in Phase 3, launched, or set to launch in late 2015/early 2016. Just use logic.

Self delusion can be just as bad if not worse than perpetual negativity. But that's besides the point, since none of us know about others personal lives' and it would be very silly to theorize about same.

Anyway, if i recall correctly, you did mention admitting BIM's defeat should no news crop up during their presentation in November. That is, once again, if i recall correctly If they reveal even semi-good news, then i can finally shut up.

[champpy]

Ok i did find this bit of info on Mohammad Shalbaf webpage

"Currently I am investigating whether prostaglandin and prostamide signalling occur in the sebaceous glands. This study is funded by Allergan Inc., Irvine, CA, USA"

http://www.bradford.ac.uk/research/rkt-centres/css/our-people/post_doctoral_staff/mohammad-shalbaf.php

Its encouraging but i still dont think we will hear about any imminent release during the congress or during the shareholders update. it'll be just enough to keep us intrigued

[jamesst11]

It was bound to happen eventually.

Nope... no new phase of treatment... I don't get what you all are so hopeful about?? give up for now... come back in another 5 years to hear the same old bullshit.

[It's2014ComeOnAlready]

Ok i did find this bit of info on Mohammad Shalbaf webpage

"Currently I am investigating whether prostaglandin and prostamide signalling occur in the sebaceous glands. This study is funded by Allergan Inc., Irvine, CA, USA"

http://www.bradford.ac.uk/research/rkt-centres/css/our-people/post_doctoral_staff/mohammad-shalbaf.php

Its encouraging but i still dont think we will hear about any imminent release during the congress or during the shareholders update. it'll be just enough to keep us intrigued

Well, this makes me feel even better, actually! Knowing that Allergan directly funded this study, and that it came out of Irvine, CA where the R&D day is taking place is very positive. Thanks

[BrianH123]

I'm becoming bipolar... Every other comment is either optimistic/positive , or negative .. God I can't take the swings , it's never a good way to start or end the day reading these forums lol

[It's2014ComeOnAlready]

Regarding the funded study...I think it's good that Allergan is paying to get more info on the effect of this drug on the scalp. That particular study doesn't look like it's the AGA one, however. It's a study on sebaceous glands and the drug, not hair growth and the drug. Could just be a supplemental study, either way, it's good.

[champpy]

If its not hair related im not sure why they would do a presentation at the congress.... but again im very certain this can help existing hair thats not threatened by AGA, but i dont see it regrowing anything. Just my opinion though

[unbalding]

If its not hair related im not sure why they would do a presentation at the congress.... but again im very certain this can help existing hair thats not threatened by AGA, but i dont see it regrowing anything. Just my opinion though

I don't understand why people say this. At lower concentrations it was similar to minoxidil, so we already know that it regrows hair. The question is how much?

[champpy]

Because i used latisse and another off brand for 6 months on one spot near my temples. Guess how many new hairs grew? Not one
Let me add, i was also dermastamping the area also to help penetration. Nada man. Only reason i can think of is the aga is outweighing the effects of bim somehow

[unbalding]

Because i used latisse and another off brand for 6 months on one spot near my temples. Guess how many new hairs grew? Not one

Well I appreciate you sharing your experience, it's just anecdotal evidence and doesn't mean a whole lot. Some of the participants in studies had no results as well, but others had good results. Ditto for minoxidil.

I don't think anyone is expecting this to be a cure. I'm just expecting something more potent than minoxidil, but it's not going to work for everyone.

[It's2014ComeOnAlready]

Well I appreciate you sharing your experience, it's just anecdotal evidence and doesn't mean a whole lot. Some of the participants in studies had no results as well, but others had good results. Ditto for minoxidil.

I don't think anyone is expecting this to be a cure. I'm just expecting something more potent than minoxidil, but it's not going to work for everyone.

Latisse has a responder rate of 85%-90%. I think unless your hair loss is too aggressive, most should see an effect.