Where are the phase IIb results for Bimatoprost?

[BiqqieSmalls]

A dermatologist office that claims to work closely with Allergan said they were bringing a product based on Latisse to market for hair loss very soon, like this Summer. Which isn't possible based on where it is in the trials... if only.

uh, wut

[BiqqieSmalls]

What's weird is that Actavis completed Phase III trials for their drug DUR001-303 in March 2015 and are now releasing the results at the end of April.

But, Allergan completed Phase II trials for Bimatoprost in January and haven't released the results yet.

I don't think they haven't released it yet because of poor efficacy. Actavis owned DUR001-303 but they didn't own Bimatoprost. It could be Actavis is more concerned with launching their products first.

I don't really know what to think of bornthisway's post.

Hey Bornthisway what dermatologist do you see?

[bornthisway]

I don't really know what to think of bornthisway's post.

Hey Bornthisway what dermatologist do you see?

I said it's impossible. Clearly one or both parties are wrong :P I was shocked they knew about latisse being used for hair loss by Allergan so I thought it was mildly interesting to share but I even stated not going to happen..

[rdawg]

A dermatologist office that claims to work closely with Allergan said they were bringing a product based on Latisse to market for hair loss very soon, like this Summer. Which isn't possible based on where it is in the trials... if only.

it's possible but very unlikely, 2B finished in January, phase III is minimum 6 months, thus could be done in June(if they did it without announcing)

wouldn't trust these friends of a friends source though.

still excited for this product, very intriguing

[Keki]

I'm not concerned by bim, i'm concerned about the price, if they sell latisse for 150$, at 3% even with mass production the price will be incredible, this is the only real reason why they could stop a bim treatment, i can totally see how they could sell this for 200-250$ a month lol

[doinmyheadin]

I read somewhere that Latisse works by keeping the hair in the growing phase longer and that eyelashes only have 30% or so in the growing phase at one time this is why it makes such a dramatic difference with eyelashes. But hair on the top of the head has 70% or so in the growing phase at the one time so Latisse or Bim probably wont work that well for MPB. Dont quote me on those exact figures.

[BiqqieSmalls]

How can we figure out where Actavis is with Bim?

[BiqqieSmalls]

Visited Allegran's website and went to the "Contact" page and wrote the following:

Hello,

As a shareholder, can you please inform me where Actavis or Allegran stands in regards to Phase II trials of Bimatoprost for the treatment of androgenic alopecia?

If you cannot update me with such information, can you provide me with details for when the next shareholder meeting will be?

Thank you kindly for your attention to this matter.

[rdawg]

they would literally have a stranglehold on the market as well. No other product can go to Phase III right now, the closest would be CB or SM who are probably about 2 years behind in the timeline at least. Imagine as a company having essentially a monopoly on the market introducing what is essentially the sequel to rogaine(essentially another topical but much more effective).

[champpy]

I know this doesn't mean much, but I contacted Allergan back in Feb and tried to ask someone if they knew anything about the results. After a couple of line transfers I finally spoke to a guy (don't remember his name) and he acted like he had never heard of the scalp product at all. I guess I cant expect anymore than that. But I tried hahaha.

On a side note, I have been using Latisse and Careprost once a day since about November. I use roughly 10 drops a night. At first I thought it was helping on my temples, but ive seen no further growth at all since. Not only that the hair is still thinning. Sooooo, I know the .03% isn't enough to grow hair, but now im kinda doubting if even stronger concentrations will do anything for the scalp. Its a sad thought

[Keki]

I know this doesn't mean much, but I contacted Allergan back in Feb and tried to ask someone if they knew anything about the results. After a couple of line transfers I finally spoke to a guy (don't remember his name) and he acted like he had never heard of the scalp product at all. I guess I cant expect anymore than that. But I tried hahaha.

On a side note, I have been using Latisse and Careprost once a day since about November. I use roughly 10 drops a night. At first I thought it was helping on my temples, but ive seen no further growth at all since. Not only that the hair is still thinning. Sooooo, I know the .03% isn't enough to grow hair, but now im kinda doubting if even stronger concentrations will do anything for the scalp. Its a sad thought

it does, at least latano which is the same (or almost the same?), i have seen some pics and it totally worked at 0.1

[BiqqieSmalls]

Got a response back:

"The next shareholder meeting will be held on June 5th. It is regarding the name change of Actavis to Allergan. And we cannot provide you an update on the Phase II trials just yet."

[BiqqieSmalls]

Another response from Investor Relations:

"On February 18th we held an Investor Day, which included a very thorough pipeline review. The materials can still be found on our website. We will probably not have another pipeline update until next year, since we do this as an annual event."

Nothing new about Bim is on the company's website.

[Keki]

Can't find this late february report anywhere, and they didn't update the financial report for the first quater yet, this piss me off, before there was a clear pipeline section in their site

[Keki]

Ok i found it, it was actavis pipeline, but it say few thing about allergan aswell, but it refer only to bim susteined release for eye and latisse, no bim for scalp, i hope it's not a bad news