follicept - what's this?

[Arashi]

Would you try it if they want to do a forum trial? Forget that you are doubting it and what others think. Would you like to try it as a part of the 20 possible testers? You may be biased but I am sure your photos will say something...

I'd only be willing to be one of those 20 guys if you, the hypers, agree to it. Cause I can already see you guys saying, in case it didnt work: "Arashi wanted it to fail, he probably didnt even apply it". In that case, what good would it be for ME to participate ?

So, no, I'd rather have 20 accounts everbody trusts. No newbies and now 'biased' accounts ...

[serenemoon]

I'd only be willing to be one of those 20 guys if you, the hypers, agree to it. Cause I can already see you guys saying, in case it didnt work: "Arashi wanted it to fail, he probably didnt even apply it". In that case, what good would it be for ME to participate ?

Nope, I am cool with you being a tester. I mean, I don't see you as as that kind of a guy who will go that far to prove that Follicept won't work. As long as you think you are capable of humbly admitting that Follicept does work, after all. (If it works.)

[Jagger]

I'd only be willing to be one of those 20 guys if you, the hypers, agree to it. Cause I can already see you guys saying, in case it didnt work: "Arashi wanted it to fail, he probably didnt even apply it". In that case, what good would it be for ME to participate ?

So, no, I'd rather have 20 accounts everbody trusts. No newbies and now 'biased' accounts ...

"Hypers." Heh.

Again, I'd support Arashi as a tester. I lean on the side of optimism but believe neutral skepticism is the correct view to have at this time. If Arashi says it works, then it probably works. I wouldn't be worried about you trying to sabotage the trial for personal satisfaction, since you obviously care about scientific integrity. You wouldn't fail the product out of spite, that much I'm confident of.

[Keki]

I wouldn't waste time even thinking about this "test", it will never happen, people will get follicept at the same time, a massive number of personal pics will be posted anyway after the launch as it should be

[FrenchNewbie]

I hope the tests will start this week to stop with this poor debate. A social proof? Big joke. Why not take 1000 persons from facebook? Same scientific authority. lol

[diffuseloser]

Arashi, you really need to stop accusing people with new accounts that they are somehow in cahoots with Follicept. Also, this forum trial you speak of is only something that would be beneficial to the very small minority of doubters. The rest of us could care less.

[serenemoon]

Arashi, you really need to stop accusing people with new accounts that they are somehow in cahoots with Follicept. Also, this forum trial you speak of is only something that would be beneficial to the very small minority of doubters. The rest of us could care less.

+1. This is true. Again, I am indifferent to a forum trial, but not many people are really that suspicious enough for a forum trial to take place anyway. It will probably satisfy Arashi and swooping maybe (and perhaps a couple of other people). I think the rest of us trust Follicept. If the forum trials needs to happen so that "doubters" are satisfied, well, it is such a SMALL minority that even if they don't buy the product, I don't think it matters.

[diffuseloser]

Exactly. There's maybe 5 people max in here who think it's all a big conspiracy. Why go to all that trouble to convince just 5 people?

[Helix]

So, no, I'd rather have 20 accounts everbody trusts. No newbies and now 'biased' accounts ...

Discriminatory behavior that you are exhibiting on this forum has been much bigger problem for human race in general than some hair loss snake oil.

Also you should note that many people here are becoming biased because of your extremely annoying witch-hunt approach.

[Keki]

As long Devon stay here to post pictures and updates i don't care, i don't care about their paranoid accusations to me by an unknow keyboard warrior one ocean away from me, i don't care what they think about prometheon, it's their problem to convince people or defend themself by this witch hunt, and i don't care about this "community trial" at all, all i want is results posted and if positive i want a schedule for european release asap, this what me and the other 99% of users want, even if it grow back 10 hairs or slow somehow the hairloss i don't want any delay, if they need info about regulations and the step to do in europe i can help because is my enviroment, if they need translations in every language they need we can help, if they want to set up another board we can help aswell, this is what a community can offer to them, not only flames

[Hicks]

I do not see any strategic advantage for Follicept to do a community trail. Actually the only benefit would come to someone that has been a member here for 2.5 years with an average 3.71 posts a DAY to increase their post to 4.71.

[nameless]

I do not see any strategic advantage for Follicept to do a community trail. Actually the only benefit would come to someone that has been a member here for 2.5 years with an average 3.71 posts a DAY to increase their post to 4.71.

There is no advantage for Follicept if they do a community trial. As a matter of fact there is only disadvantage because if they do a trial here before they complete the convenience trial they will needlessly be taking on risk. So they will then have risk plus they could then become known for being a company that takes on needless risk, which would damage their industry credibility and reputation.

[Johnny2000]

1: when Will we know if This works? (Month & year)

2: if it works, how long would be realistic to Think it comes on the marked?

3: would it be possible to buy it from Europe (Denmark) and have it send here?

4: Will there be a shedding (im diffuse & receding) so it would be a pain in the ass if it is like minox, where Many people reported shedding and the shedded hairs never returned.

I hope someone Will try to answer my questions as best as possible please.
Like all of you, im getting desperet.
I need something to regrow my thinning.

[Gbalding]

The idea behind a forum trial is:
1) To do it in an organized way
2) To ensure only trusthworthy accounts participate. Nobody cares about results from new accounts. We need longterm forum visitors with trackrecord, who EVERYBODY can trust.
3) To make it happen at the earliest possibility. They should ship out the product to the forum users once they can legally do so (so after the lab tests for toxicity etc).

You're SO against a forum trial (with your new account). Really, tell me, if Follicept was for real, then why would they NOT want to do it ? I can only see benefits for them ! This would be THE best way to even convince the biggest doubters like me !! And people are wanting to help them out to get it done !

And why would YOU as a consumer even be against it ? That makes even less sense !

Honestly Arashi, a forum trial would be a disaster.

Let them do their job, and test whatever they have. I want this thing to work, and I don't want to rely on a half ass trial to make my decision. If there was a history of successful trials being conducted with the users on this forum, I would look at it differently; however, the history suggests that it isn't worth the time or effort. If you feel that I'm completely wrong, and there has been a history of successful trials, please feel free to point them out to me, and by extension, the community.

I read this forum a lot, but seldom post here. I hope the absence of my voice doesn't detract from my credibility as a balding man.

[Jagger]

1: when Will we know if This works? (Month & year)

2: if it works, how long would be realistic to Think it comes on the marked?

3: would it be possible to buy it from Europe (Denmark) and have it send here?

4: Will there be a shedding (im diffuse & receding) so it would be a pain in the ass if it is like minox, where Many people reported shedding and the shedded hairs never returned.

I hope someone Will try to answer my questions as best as possible please.
Like all of you, im getting desperet.
I need something to regrow my thinning.

1. Hopefully within a month or two. They've received the IGF-1 shipment and were waiting on other ingredients. If all went well, Devon and co. started their personal trials today. Papers suggested that results may be visible after 12 days, but we don't know much.

2. They want it out by the end of the year.

3. To buy from Denmark? Or to have it shipped to Denmark? At any rate, we don't know.

4. They said they don't expect a shed, but again, we won't know until they test it.