follicept - what's this?

[Keki]

Very old study about insulin shots and acne. It seems that local insulin shots improved acne.

The Effect of Intralesional Insulin and Glucagon in Acne Vulgaris

http://www.nature.com/jid/journal/v40/n5/abs/jid196345a.html

Acne is associated with baldness and both are associated with insulin resistance. I think that you guys are on a good path. I hope that even if IGF-1 doesn't work you are going to experiment with other things.
Since insulin resistance is strongly associated with hair loss I think that efforts to improve peripheral carbohydrate metabolism in hair follicles will be beneficial for hair if not a cure. I also think that you are ideal team for that. You obviously have experience with diabetes and insulin, and you have a vehicle that will allow you to experiment with small doses and avoid long trials.

Thx for the info, i wish i could use this thread to better study and understand igf and how can we improve is effectiveness once out, but some people like to watch the world burn, no costructive behvior just useless spam, you know with the amount of knowledge in the community i think we could improve follicept or at least give them same good idea but no, let's focus on this retard scammer vs not scammer and the retard analogy with people who got scarred and hospitalized by criminal

[ShookOnes]

inb4 scam. and another to add to the dust!

[NOhairNOlife]

Thx for the info, i wish i could use this thread to better study and understand igf and how can we improve is effectiveness once out, but some people like to watch the world burn, no costructive behvior just useless spam, you know with the amount of knowledge in the community i think we could improve follicept or at least give them same good idea but no, let's focus on this retard scammer vs not scammer and the retard analogy with people who got scarred and hospitalized by criminal

This +1000000

Arashi, STOP, STOP, STOP...
I'm fn sick and tired of reading your recycled crap. I check this thread a lot and all I see is this guy ( Arashi) posting the same crap. ENOUGH... You're like a child that needs to always have the last word.

Let's keep this thread on track....

[Arashi]

Thx for the info, i wish i could use this thread to better study and understand igf and how can we improve is effectiveness once out

The only one who has been posting scientific articles and info in this thread, has been Swooping and you didnt care about his info. No, it was all wrong, all irrelevant, cause it didnt coalign with your hope that this stuff is going to actually work.

[Arashi]

Let's keep this thread on track....

If you want to keep it on track, then DO that ! But all you shills post is "Arashi this, Arashi that" and then complain we're 30 pages further.

[dus]

Please do like me friends: Alert Arashi to modération (small warning triangle bottom left on his post).

Please excuse my French but f*ck you. You are not a friend. History has shown that open debate is vital when it comes new "cures" and "procedures".

[Arashi]

He gave some false informations to discredit Follicept before seeing photos/studies/sample test. For instance, he spoke about a shampoo which is for sell on Amazon.com (with tea called Camellix) from an other Dr Stephen Hsu (you can see the homonim from an other University: http://www.gru.edu/dentalmedicine/re...culty/shsu.php ).

The only one giving false information here is YOU. I didn't 'give' that information about that shampoo, that was posted by this guy: https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showth...l=1#post198764

I merely said I read the whole thread and made a summary of what I had read. So the only one posting false info is YOU. I never claimed it to be true, I just said that that was my summary of the thread.

You want this forum for you alone, you guys only want positive news about Follicept (and I can only guess about the reasons why). Well guess what, this is a forum, everybody's opinion is welcome. If we only had people like you, hyping every new product out there, I'm sure we'd have seen the first dead forum visitor by now. Wesley ALMOST got to that after he got hospitalized cause his body was in a shock because his immunesystem was triggered in a really bad way by injections dr Nigam gave him.

General rule here should be: expect ANY new product to be a scam, untill proven otherwise. If you do it the other way around, somebody WILL eventually die. Either of induced cancer (by for example some growth factor associated with cancer) or from other reasons, like in Wesleys case, a reaction of his immune system. And I'm not even talking about the tons of other horrible problems we've seen so far because of people using products hyped here on this forum (like scarring, ingrown hairs, sickness, killing their own follicles and big financial losses)

[FrenchNewbie]

Please excuse my French but f*ck you. You are not a friend. History has shown that open debate is vital when it comes new "cures" and "procedures".

What a beautiful debate! You are the bad cliche of what we think about anglo-saxons: no culture, no complexity in the language, no shade.

[dus]

What a beautiful debate! You are the bad cliche of what we think about anglo-saxons: no culture, no complexity in the language, no shade.

I'm Dutch. Why bring up "debate" now after you proposed to end it? Or are you already surrendering?

[Keki]

Anyway every single working stuff from minox, to adenosine to propecia seems to increase igf, ignoring the increase of igf in dermal papilla means 100% hairgrowth it's silly, the question is, will exogenouse igf work? how did they choose the exact quantity of igf in follicept? Id like to know that, how can they be sure is enough, and about this morning how can we decrease the insulin resistence so it may work better, maybe this is the real key to the cure

[FrenchNewbie]

You insult me and you want me to say: "oh ok, he said me "f*ck you", it's fine". And dutch are... anglo-saxons. Angles came from Holland and south of Danemark dude.

[FrenchNewbie]

Anyway every single working stuff from minox, to adenosine to propecia seems to increase igf, ignoring the increase of igf in dermal papilla means 100% hairgrowth it's silly, the question is, will exogenouse igf work? how did they choose the exact quantity of igf in follicept? Id like to know that, how can they be sure is enough, and about this morning how can we decrease the insulin resistence so it may work better, maybe this is the real key to the cure

I think they have tested it on some humans before to be so confident. They know their product and they know that this is not dangerous for health. So i think they have tested it without protocole. This is an assumption.

[efedrez]

Devon,

Regardless of the results, are you guys planning to be on the 9th world congress for hair research in Miami later this years

Not only would add more credibility to your project in the eyes of the pessimist but also, I'm sure your deliver method will give a lot to talk to the rest of the scientific community

[Keki]

I think they have tested that on some humans before to be so confident. They know their product and they know that this is not dangerous for health. So i think that they have tested it without protocole.

I don't think so, i guess they used a mathematic algorithm to guess the amount needed to have some effect, i could be wrong but some product use this process, sometimes it isn't enough look at bimatoprost, for this reason there are 2 phase in treatment, to know the right amount for the desired result, this is an all in trial, the chance this will work are low even if the igf and insulin are the good path for a working treatment

[Arashi]

Devon,

Regardless of the results, are you guys planning to be on the 9th world congress for hair research in Miami later this years

Not only would add more credibility to your project in the eyes of the pessimist but also, I'm sure your deliver method will give a lot to talk to the rest of the scientific community

Anyone can speak at a conference. Heck, they even scheduled dr Nigam to speak last year at WCHR 2014 ! I emailed them with some info on Dr Nigam and then they canceled his scheduled speaking time based on the proof of his scams I had sent them. But if I hadnt done it, he had probably spoken at last years conference. Just saying, speaking at a conference, who cares. We need PROOF.