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  • Keki
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 232

    Arashi again proves he don't understand nothing at all and read about 1/10 of the thread

    Ignoring the usual scam accusation, i just want to point out we should be glad this is a cosmetic and they don't need fda trial, otherwise they would need millions and years, something they could do only for their topicon and only after massive investment by another pharma, if we have a 1% chance this works is only because of that, and if fda could states only the safety of a treatment and not force every time an extensive 3 phase trial with hundread or thousands people involved we could have a cure or at least lot of other treatments for hairloss then we have now, imagine if we could alredy try cb or bim, at least 1/3 of us could drop propecia and minox without spending 2k/month like now if you want decent %

    I trust only helluser in the community, but he is using almost every possible thing in his head so in a honest real trial he cannot be usefull, he is at his plateau and he is only 1 the treatment could work but not on him, we need at least 15-20 people who never used anything in their nw2-3, someone like me for example but american and near prometheon and it's very hard to find them here where everyone is using something, so we are forced to trust devon in his "unofficial trial", i think there are some users who contacted him so maybe we have someone in the community directly involved, if you don't trust them you could wait for the second trial with publications, then you can trust people pics who bought follicept at this point, and if still after this hundreads of pics and tricoscan still think it's a scam you should leave the forum and call a psychologist to work on your faith in humanity because we are talking about dunno 100$ of product, i never scrutinized a 100$ thing so much in my life, if they posted hundreads of fake pics with hundreads of fake account in order to sell 20-30k follicept before being busted then they totally deserve it, but you understand this is reality and this will never happen

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    • Jonathan
      Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 59

      I trust Devon and Prometheon 100%. I will not have any doubts regarding the mini trial they have said that they will conduct. Devon also said that he might put up a Youtube video of his own progress using Follicept. Stop being so paranoid. I know that the community has been cheated many times but if you cant tell the difference between a Dr Nigam and a legit company like Prometheon there is no use debating anything.

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      • NOhairNOlife
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 118

        Originally posted by Arashi
        Agreed there, this guy doesnt look like him. I stand corrected there !

        Anyway awaiting an answer from Devon about the idea to do a small trial among forum users !
        Originally posted by Arashi
        I guess you have a point, maybe it's not fair to say they don't WANT it. But it most definitely doesn't speak in their favour or makes their product credible.

        Look it's really simple: do that 10 person forum trial and even the biggest doubters here will shut up and empty their pockets for their product ! win-win for everybody !
        Arashi dude give it up already. You made 2 very strong allegations that were very wrong and misleading. You accused Dr. Hsu of being somebody else and you falsified the fact that follicept doesn't want FDA approval. So what I'm reading is that you are the scammer.
        So save us the time and energy and stop posting your nonsense.

        P.s. the laser comb is FDA approved and that thing is the biggest crock of shit. Especially with the small amount of diodes.
        p.s.s the FDA does not stop scammers. It only insures safety of a product (and possibly 'efficacy')

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        • noisette
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 259

          Hellouser is the good one for trying Follicept. And Desmond too ! Nobody else. I believe on Promotheon pharma.
          Thank you very much to Devon for his HARD work and loyalty.

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          • Arashi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 3888

            Originally posted by noisette
            Hellouser is the good one for trying Follicept. And Desmond too ! Nobody else. I believe on Promotheon pharma.
            Thank you very much to Devon for his HARD work and loyalty.
            There are several others. GC83UK never has been on meds, he's very good at photo's. Feartheloss, maybe Artista, we could easily select at least 10 users without a problem. Maybe they're not all 10 pro photographers but with some dedication, they can all make usable photo's.

            Yet it's interesting to see how the fake accounts like "Keki" do all they can to get dumb excuses to not perform such independent forum test. They rather prefer a trial run by the company itself that nobody can oversee or check. They rather have photo's the company uploads, photo's that nobody can verify and have the company make statements that nobody can check. Yeah that makes a lot of sense from a consumer standpoint. LOL

            Anyway, of course, do the company trial too at the same time, I don't care. But at least do such forum test at the same time too ! Not after the company test, but right now ! THAT would make even the biggest doubters believe ! And, if the company were legit, that would be in their best interest too !

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            • noisette
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 259

              I think that Devon can easily give a sample to Hellouser in order to try it. If it works on Hellouser, everybody will be happy and will support promotheon pharma all over the world !

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                Originally posted by noisette
                I think that Devon can easily give a sample to Hellouser in order to try it. If it works on Hellouser, everybody will be happy and will support promotheon pharma all over the world !
                Hellouser would be one, but really, there are lots of trustworthy forum members, make the trial a little bit bigger, 1 user wouldnt say much, 10 a bit more, or heck, we can even select 20 long term forum users without a problem. Devon said they could make enough of their stuff for at least 4000 people right now. Why not then send it out to 10-20 long term forum users to try then?

                Wouldnt it be 1000x times more effective to do that, then to come to this forum every day and try to convince us with just words, when they could just show it to us via a forum trial ? They said they were a small company, they said they appreciate all the help from forum users they can get. Well then, here we are ! What better way to help than to make the whole world believe ?

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                • bananana
                  Inactive
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 524

                  I could do it, I'm also (was) a pro photographer, and I believe I have some reputation here (at least time wise),
                  but I've started using fin 2 months ago.. And I'm a diffuse 2/3.

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                  • noisette
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 259

                    Originally posted by Arashi
                    Hellouser would be one, but really, there are lots of trustworthy forum members, make the trial a little bit bigger, 1 user wouldnt say much, 10 a bit more, or heck, we can even select 20 long term forum users without a problem. Devon said they could make enough of their stuff for at least 4000 people right now. Why not then send it out to 10-20 long term forum users to try then?
                    Yes of course. Devon said that " Well said. Is an effective product not enough? We really would love to be able to offer stock, but the SEC makes that impossible. Sorry! " There are some regulations for the human test ? I don't know exactly what is it but, for one person this would be possible I think... That's why I presume Hellouser would be the one... Yes Artista, Desmond, You too (because I read your posts years ago...) etc...

                    I believe sincerely on Devon, Follicept... DR Stephen Hsu's integrity...
                    ps: you can see a vid here (but I'm sure you have already seen it ) : www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVWlSAKsmVQ

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                    • Keki
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 232

                      I think the only way to test this thing would be someone completly out of minox and other topical, let's say this work the same or slightly better then minox, you have to stop minox for using follicept, so it may lead to minox shedding just after 1 month, maybe follicept can save some minox hairs but who know the interaction? It's a totally useless test, so people on ru which is not consistent and dangerous if follicept maximize absorption, maybe it will be better with people only on propecia, but even then some people swear to have this "propecia shedding" even if no scientific paper noticed this, and how to know if the hairgrowth is induced by propecia or by follicept?
                      So i personally will trust devon with his trial of "clean baseline" people i think there are some community users, after that they said they will begin to sell if they notice hairs activity and people can trust who they want anyway or never buy the product if skeptictal, but honstly this real vs fake proof is the last of our problem, that is something we can discuss after some results, we don't even know if this can grow a single hair and we are talking about community trial vs internal, it's a joke, this is a problem only for people who think devon is a scammer with shopped pics so dunno 1 every 50 user?

                      I only hope devon accepts 10 or more people int he unofficial one, otherwise will be almost useless, most treatment works only on half people or less

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                      • serenemoon
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 210

                        Originally posted by Keki
                        I think the only way to test this thing would be someone completly out of minox and other topical, let's say this work the same or slightly better then minox, you have to stop minox for using follicept, so it may lead to minox shedding just after 1 month, maybe follicept can save some minox hairs but who know the interaction? It's a totally useless test, so people on ru which is not consistent and dangerous if follicept maximize absorption, maybe it will be better with people only on propecia, but even then some people swear to have this "propecia shedding" even if no scientific paper noticed this, and how to know if the hairgrowth is induced by propecia or by follicept?
                        So i personally will trust devon with his trial of "clean baseline" people i think there are some community users, after that they said they will begin to sell if they notice hairs activity and people can trust who they want anyway or never buy the product if skeptictal, but honstly this real vs fake proof is the last of our problem, that is something we can discuss after some results, we don't even know if this can grow a single hair and we are talking about community trial vs internal, it's a joke, this is a problem only for people who think devon is a scammer with shopped pics so dunno 1 every 50 user?

                        I only hope devon accepts 10 or more people int he unofficial one, otherwise will be almost useless, most treatment works only on half people or less
                        I also do hope however, that they will test on at least a small number of rogaine users interested in switching to follicept. They don't have to be included as a part of the "main data" trial when calculating hair growth improvements. I think it would just put a lot of rogaine users' minds at rest when it comes to dealing with shedding that comes after minoxidil. It would be nice to know if the hair that was being kept by minoxidil will be brought back by IGF-1 even after it sheds (if it sheds that is), and if it will help the patients go above the hair growth they had WHILE On minoxidil.

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                        • FrenchNewbie
                          Member
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 57

                          Originally posted by Arashi
                          Hellouser would be one, but really, there are lots of trustworthy forum members, make the trial a little bit bigger, 1 user wouldnt say much, 10 a bit more, or heck, we can even select 20 long term forum users without a problem. Devon said they could make enough of their stuff for at least 4000 people right now. Why not then send it out to 10-20 long term forum users to try then?

                          Wouldnt it be 1000x times more effective to do that, then to come to this forum every day and try to convince us with just words, when they could just show it to us via a forum trial ? They said they were a small company, they said they appreciate all the help from forum users they can get. Well then, here we are ! What better way to help than to make the whole world believe ?
                          Please stop. You are spamming this topic without proof. You said Devon came without proof, but this your case too. You defame. I am new here, but if you continue Devon will leave this topic. I know that it's your wish. But the majority here wants him to stay.

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                          • GSD
                            Member
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 75

                            In my opinion arashi dont deserve to test this product. Please be a man of honor and leave this thread.

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                            • Keki
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 232

                              We are all nw1 prometheon fake account, you know, better continue trash talk

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                              • follicept
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2015
                                • 251

                                Originally posted by stayhopeful
                                you have many beers/drinks waiting for you here in So Cal if you ever come out... and if Follicept works.. you have drinks + A LOT more waiting out here for you lol
                                Haha roger that! I am in So Cal once a year or so- have some family in Rancho Palos Verdes and friends in Orange County...

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