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  • lacazette
    Senior Member
    • May 2015
    • 394

    2018 for the begin of becoming the gold standard
    but I really hope it will be sooner in Wesley clinic and in a few docs in the world

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    • tedwuji
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2014
      • 474

      Originally posted by lacazette
      2018 for the begin of becoming the gold standard
      but I really hope it will be sooner in Wesley clinic and in a few docs in the world
      2017 for that.

      2018/2019 for gold standard assuming everything goes as planned.

      stuff like this simply doesnt happen with a snap of the fingers.

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      • Trenblastoise
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 142

        I think too it's going to be ~2018 for a good one, or even later. Good thing is there are many surgeons that know how to place the grafts now, so they only need to figure out how to extract.
        One of these transplants together with replicel/shiseido would be great.

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        • tedwuji
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2014
          • 474

          Originally posted by Trenblastoise
          I think too it's going to be ~2018 for a good one, or even later. Good thing is there are many surgeons that know how to place the grafts now, so they only need to figure out how to extract.
          One of these transplants together with replicel/shiseido would be great.
          yeah those are some interesting points about graft placement already being in order. i agree. 2017-2018 is when we will really see the show with this (assuming it works as planned in the upcoming trials).

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          • hellouser
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 4419

            If Pilofocus doesn't offer a greater amount of hair in the recipient area, this changes nothing.

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            • John9923
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2015
              • 1

              For the people saying 2018, you do realize this technique will be approved by the end of this year by the FDA. This should be ready by next year.

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              • barfacan
                Member
                • Feb 2015
                • 76

                You haven't been in the game long enough, johnny boy.

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                • Hemo
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 138

                  I think some of you guys are being very optimistic about this becoming a gold standard in/by 2017/2018. Dr. Wesley is basically just beginning small transplant trials and will obviously need to expand the # of follicles used before we see if this method is substantially better than more traditional FUT. Considering it will likely take 8-12 months before we really see efficacy (AFTER the trials have been expanded, and who knows when that will happen...), it will probably be at least 2 years before other doctors even consider looking into this.

                  Also consider that other doctors might not adopt the method immediately, especially if it isn't significantly better than the procedures they already offer. I think we're looking at another 4 or 5 years before this is readily available outside of Wesley's and maybe other advanced clinics.

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                  • tedwuji
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 474

                    Originally posted by John9923
                    For the people saying 2018, you do realize this technique will be approved by the end of this year by the FDA. This should be ready by next year.
                    we said mainstream use.
                    simple fda clearance is a different subject.

                    also of note is they said what you are saying now early on in 2011. Things got pushed back.

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                    • tedwuji
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 474

                      Originally posted by Hemo
                      I think some of you guys are being very optimistic about this becoming a gold standard in/by 2017/2018. Dr. Wesley is basically just beginning small transplant trials and will obviously need to expand the # of follicles used before we see if this method is substantially better than more traditional FUT. Considering it will likely take 8-12 months before we really see efficacy (AFTER the trials have been expanded, and who knows when that will happen...), it will probably be at least 2 years before other doctors even consider looking into this.

                      Also consider that other doctors might not adopt the method immediately, especially if it isn't significantly better than the procedures they already offer. I think we're looking at another 4 or 5 years before this is readily available outside of Wesley's and maybe other advanced clinics.
                      This is a reasonable comment and if you review my posts i also mentioned how long transplants take to materialize as a key factor in time allotment. Hemo is on point.

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                      • Trouse5858
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 166

                        Originally posted by Hemo
                        I think some of you guys are being very optimistic about this becoming a gold standard in/by 2017/2018. Dr. Wesley is basically just beginning small transplant trials and will obviously need to expand the # of follicles used before we see if this method is substantially better than more traditional FUT. Considering it will likely take 8-12 months before we really see efficacy (AFTER the trials have been expanded, and who knows when that will happen...), it will probably be at least 2 years before other doctors even consider looking into this.

                        Also consider that other doctors might not adopt the method immediately, especially if it isn't significantly better than the procedures they already offer. I think we're looking at another 4 or 5 years before this is readily available outside of Wesley's and maybe other advanced clinics.
                        Ding ding ding. It takes a while for the HT surgeon community to all learn and perfect new methods to the point that they would be offering it as the 'gold standard' of their practice. This assumes that the method will in fact be significantly better which inevitably means it will also be more expensive for a good length of time.

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                        • Hemo
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 138

                          hell, even 4-5 years might be aggressive. Lets see when the small scale experimental procedures actually start...

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                          • lacazette
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2015
                            • 394

                            I won't wait the mainstream use for all surgeons and lambda people in my case

                            There's a lot of balding guys who aren't on internet forums to search the best solution/technique and a lot who won't want to travel to try a new technique without seeing a lot of patients exemples

                            In my case I just need Dr wesley or another top doc in the world to do a medium session (2000/3000) and I wouldn't mind to be in the few first patients who do this technique like a guinea pig ^^ so I think in 2017 It would be possible for the ones who are motivated and understand the risk
                            I would be afraid if it was a new implant technique on the recipient area, but it is just a new thing to extract the graft, and subdermal approach is being use in chirurgical medecine for years without a problem so I won't wait to see 200 big sessions results to convince me, but of course only if im in wesley's hands or a well known top doc

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                            • tedwuji
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 474

                              Originally posted by lacazette
                              I won't wait the mainstream use for all surgeons and lambda people in my case

                              There's a lot of balding guys who aren't on internet forums to search the best solution/technique and a lot who won't want to travel to try a new technique without seeing a lot of patients exemples

                              In my case I just need Dr wesley or another top doc in the world to do a medium session (2000/3000) and I wouldn't mind to be in the few first patients who do this technique like a guinea pig ^^ so I think in 2017 It would be possible for the ones who are motivated and understand the risk
                              I would be afraid if it was a new implant technique on the recipient area, but it is just a new thing to extract the graft, and subdermal approach is being use in chirurgical medecine for years without a problem so I won't wait to see 200 big sessions results to convince me, but of course only if im in wesley's hands or a well known top doc
                              In 2017 we'll know more.
                              Let's hope these small trials go well, because if not it could be back to the drawing board.

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                              • tedwuji
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 474

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